WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.815 Okay, welcome everyone to the ordinary 00:00:01.839 --> 00:00:03.576 meeting of council for the 8th of April 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:06.136 2026. I begin today by acknowledging the 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:07.496 traditional custodians of a land on 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:08.936 which we meet and pay respects to Elders 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:10.695 past, present and emerging and extend 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:12.695 that respect to a Aboriginal Torres Strait 00:00:12.719 --> 00:00:14.376 Islander people here today. We 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:15.735 acknowledge the stories, traditions and 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:17.255 living cultures of Aboriginal Torres Strait 00:00:17.279 --> 00:00:19.175 Islander people on this land and commit 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:21.015 to building a brighter future together. 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:22.936 In regards to apologies, I'm going to 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:24.856 move that the apologies from councilors 00:00:24.880 --> 00:00:26.616 Livermore and MacDonald be received and 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:28.456 that leave of absence be granted and 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:29.495 I'll have a second to councelor 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:31.255 Broadbent. And we'll move that motion 00:00:31.279 --> 00:00:33.336 council. All in favor, that's unanimous 00:00:33.360 --> 00:00:36.055 and carried. Confirmation of minutes. So 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:37.736 I'll move that the minutes of the auding 00:00:37.760 --> 00:00:39.496 of council held in the WB Freebody 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.736 chambers Nelly Hamilton Center on the 00:00:41.760 --> 00:00:43.896 25th of March 2026 be confirmed. And 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.176 I'll ask for a second to councelor 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.176 Preston. Is any discussion on the 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:48.695 minutes? There is. Councelor Grundy. 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:50.855 Thank you Mr. Mayor. A correction. 00:00:50.879 --> 00:00:53.175 the minutes refer to the chairperson 00:00:53.199 --> 00:00:56.199 being yourself rather than councelor 00:00:56.239 --> 00:00:59.239 Livermore that's page nine but it is 00:00:59.680 --> 00:01:02.680 because of the every page of the base 00:01:02.879 --> 00:01:04.775 has the reference to yourself rather 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.696 than councilor Livermore. So it's every 00:01:06.720 --> 00:01:07.095 page. 00:01:07.119 --> 00:01:08.376 I think it's something in goes in the 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.400 footer by if we're able to update that 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:14.616 if possible we'll change that to Deputy 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:16.455 Mayor that chaired the meeting. 00:01:16.479 --> 00:01:18.056 Yeah. So, we'll take that on notice and 00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:20.455 hopefully we can get on top of that. Is 00:01:20.479 --> 00:01:21.896 is there any other discussion on the 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:24.056 minutes? If not, we'll put the motion. 00:01:24.080 --> 00:01:26.376 All those in favor? That's unanimous and 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.400 carried. disclosure of interest. So, 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:30.616 I'll move that council staff now 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.135 disclose any interest and reasons for 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:33.336 declaring such interest in the matters 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:34.856 under consideration by council at this 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:36.616 meeting. That's seconded by councelor 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:38.296 Waterhouse. We'll put that motion. 00:01:38.320 --> 00:01:40.376 Councilors all in favor unanimous and 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.135 carried. So, we have a declaration from 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:45.159 councelor Willis. 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.976 Yes. that's a non-pecuniary less than 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.000 significant interest in item 10.3 be as 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:53.896 I'm a member of the executive Queanbeyan 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.920 land care. I propose to stay in the room 00:01:56.960 --> 00:01:58.216 and vote. 00:01:58.240 --> 00:01:59.735 Thank you councelor Willis. I'm also 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:01.896 going to make a declaration item 11.3 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.216 which is a notice of motion regarding 00:02:04.240 --> 00:02:07.016 gambling advertising reform a non-pecuniary 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:08.455 less than significant in that I'm a 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:09.896 board member of the Queanbeyan League Club 00:02:09.920 --> 00:02:11.976 and I propose to leave the chamber. If 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.416 there's no more disclosures, we can go 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:15.416 to the first item for determination. And 00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:17.336 I'm going to move a procedural motion, 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:19.496 counselors, that we bring forward item 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:22.136 8.2, which is the Mongarlowe area committee 00:02:22.160 --> 00:02:23.496 association request for refund of 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.256 development related fees. Have a 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.016 seconder for that, councelor Wilson. So 00:02:27.040 --> 00:02:28.776 I put that procedural motion council all 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.096 in favor unanimous and carried. So we 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.056 will deal with item 8.2 which is as I 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:35.575 said the Mongarlowe area community 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.016 association request for refund of 00:02:37.040 --> 00:02:38.696 development related fees. And we have a 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:41.176 mover, Councelor Wilson. Secondly, 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:43.976 Council Waterhouse. Councelor Wilson. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:45.896 thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Ted, 00:02:45.920 --> 00:02:48.215 for coming along. we do love a 00:02:48.239 --> 00:02:50.536 project that was on time and on budget. 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:52.935 I'm more than happy to support 00:02:52.959 --> 00:02:55.176 this from the general fund, the 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:57.176 reimbursement of the fees. In fact, I 00:02:57.200 --> 00:02:58.935 was thinking about even moving a 00:02:58.959 --> 00:03:00.536 amendment, which I'm not going to now, 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.696 general manager, to provide some 00:03:02.720 --> 00:03:03.896 additional funding to make sure we get 00:03:03.920 --> 00:03:05.176 all the works done. So I think what 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:07.336 we'll do happy to move this 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:08.935 recommendation. We'll note that the 00:03:08.959 --> 00:03:11.959 figure listed is excluding GST. so 00:03:12.720 --> 00:03:15.016 that that will be the extra Pete if 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:18.040 you're worrying about that and that 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:21.096 if we do need some section 355 committee 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:22.456 funds down the track to possibly finish 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:23.495 the project off, we want to make sure 00:03:23.519 --> 00:03:24.855 that it is finished off properly. It's 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.016 great to see the facility being used 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:28.616 by the community. So I think this is a 00:03:28.640 --> 00:03:30.215 win-win for council and the community. 00:03:30.239 --> 00:03:31.096 Thank you, Mayor. 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.295 Thank you, Councilor Wilson. Councelor 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:33.176 Waterhouse. 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:35.656 Thanks, Mr. Mayor. on the I'm on the 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.816 355 committee and I'm very proud to be 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:39.896 on it and they're a wonderful group of 00:03:39.920 --> 00:03:41.976 people and the the the people of Mongarlowe 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.376 are really really benefiting and 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.536 utilizing the hall really really well 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.775 and it's a it's a great facility and I 00:03:48.799 --> 00:03:50.376 think council can be very proud of it 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.056 and I think the people of Mongarlowe can be 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.135 very proud of it as well. So I 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.456 support this whole heartedly. 00:03:56.480 --> 00:03:57.896 Thank you councelor Waterhouse. Is there 00:03:57.920 --> 00:04:00.536 further discussion? Councelor Willis. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.560 yeah I have a question the table 00:04:04.239 --> 00:04:07.239 that we had included I think $300 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:10.280 towards a solar grant application but I 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.495 thought Mr. Emett said that there needed 00:04:13.519 --> 00:04:16.455 to be some matching funding. So from my 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:18.215 point of view it's essential it's 00:04:18.239 --> 00:04:20.215 critical that the solar power and 00:04:20.239 --> 00:04:23.239 battery system is installed so that 00:04:23.520 --> 00:04:25.336 the hall can be a reliable emergency 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:27.336 shelter. After all that was sort of the 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.360 impetus for building it. so I just 00:04:31.440 --> 00:04:34.440 wanted to clarify these funds don't 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.680 don't get the the hall across the line 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:40.856 for installing solar. They're still 00:04:40.880 --> 00:04:43.880 going to have to raise money to match 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.336 a grant. Is that correct? 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.256 This Miss Richards. 00:04:49.280 --> 00:04:51.976 No, it's me, Mr. Mayor through you 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.296 Mr. Mayor. 00:04:54.320 --> 00:04:57.175 These are the fees that Mongarlowe Hall 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:58.615 Committee have paid for the development 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.256 application and the CC development 00:05:01.280 --> 00:05:04.280 application fees which are 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.336 recommended to be repaid. If the Mongarlowe 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.360 Hall are looking at what items they're 00:05:10.960 --> 00:05:13.015 wanting to pay for this to do the fit 00:05:13.039 --> 00:05:14.376 out, they're more than welcome, of 00:05:14.400 --> 00:05:17.175 course, to make an additional request 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.496 to council's budget process for anything 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:22.520 else they require for the hall as 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:24.536 well as through our section 355 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.936 committee donations of which they 00:05:26.960 --> 00:05:29.656 were eligible and did receive a small 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:31.816 grant at the which council allocated 00:05:31.840 --> 00:05:34.840 at the last council meeting as well 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:37.175 so if they applying for a grant and wish 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:38.615 to make a submission to council, we can 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.776 bring that to council. 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.376 Thank you. I just wanted to put on 00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:44.536 record that I think the council should 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.560 be updated on on the progress of 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.056 getting solar and battery on that 00:05:50.080 --> 00:05:52.536 facility. We have another item in this 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.560 business paper about providing safe 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.680 shelter for people in extreme heat and 00:05:59.440 --> 00:06:01.895 out there in particular bushfire is a 00:06:01.919 --> 00:06:04.919 risk and I think we need to know 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:09.880 if the um community the committee 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.199 managing the facility needs some support 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.776 for a grant and that they do 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.096 actually get solar installed cuz it's 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:20.856 just a matter of time before there's 00:06:20.880 --> 00:06:23.416 another serious bush fire. 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:24.936 Thank you, Councilor Willis. Is there 00:06:24.960 --> 00:06:27.895 further discussion? Councelor Grundy, 00:06:27.919 --> 00:06:30.919 point of clarification the report 00:06:31.039 --> 00:06:34.039 talks about the New South Wales LSL levy 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.720 and it not being a council 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.895 levied 00:06:39.919 --> 00:06:42.919 cost are we being asked in this 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:46.216 item 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.240 to actually stump up for what is a 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.240 state government levy and amounts that 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.696 go through to the state? Is that what's 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.056 being asked? 00:06:58.080 --> 00:06:59.015 Mr. Ronald 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:01.336 through you Mr. Mayor Yes. So it's 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.360 a similarly the fees have already been 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.015 credited as income to council for 00:07:07.039 --> 00:07:10.039 development application fees as well 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.136 as any levies paid to the New South 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.216 Wales government. What has been asked 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.856 for is a contribution or donation back 00:07:16.880 --> 00:07:19.175 to the Mongala Hall of the amount of 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:22.199 what they've paid irrespective of where 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.639 that fee has been generated from. 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.735 Okay. So council does not retain those 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:29.416 fees. They go to the state. So 00:07:29.440 --> 00:07:32.136 effectively we're paying for in if this 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.615 donation goes through as is presented 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.639 we're paying for that the state gets 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.319 to keep the levy and we're 00:07:41.440 --> 00:07:44.440 giving money back to the community if 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.096 you like to the am to equal to the 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.120 amount of that levy isn't that the case 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:55.960 three Mr. where that is correct. As is 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.376 council is also retaining the income 00:07:58.400 --> 00:07:59.816 it's received for its development 00:07:59.840 --> 00:08:02.216 application fees it's charged. 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.096 Is that legal that we are effectively 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:08.120 covering the costs that that out of our 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.120 general fund that the state if there 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.496 are to be refunded should be co covering 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:18.056 because it's a state fee not a council 00:08:18.080 --> 00:08:21.080 fee 00:08:21.440 --> 00:08:23.895 through Mr. Mayor, it's a cost that 00:08:23.919 --> 00:08:26.919 the hall has paid which they've asked 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.015 for a donation back. You have a 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:34.039 donations policy which is under 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.815 the local government act. It's a 00:08:37.839 --> 00:08:39.976 program which is advertised and this 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.616 funding matches those donation policy. 00:08:42.640 --> 00:08:44.776 But we don't retain that fee. That's the 00:08:44.800 --> 00:08:46.616 point I'm making and the report 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:49.640 clearly says that these these fees 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:51.736 collected on behalf of another 00:08:51.760 --> 00:08:54.760 authority, the state and yet we're 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.976 being asked to include it in a 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.216 reimbursement. Shouldn't that be 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:02.536 something separate? And if it's to be 00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:04.456 reimbursed, that's a matter to be taken 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:07.480 up by the state or with the state, not 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.600 council. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:12.216 through Mr. Mayor, that's a decision 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.056 of council. 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:15.896 Okay I would like to put an 00:09:15.920 --> 00:09:18.920 amendment if I may for this item please. 00:09:18.959 --> 00:09:21.176 and I have not given it to the 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.576 secretary. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.600 My apologies for that I would like 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.519 the item to be deferred allowing the 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.279 matter to be put 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.016 as a budget bid 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:39.416 for the 2026 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.440 27 operational plan. 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.416 Do I have a second for the amendment? 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.976 Councelor Broadbent. 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.255 You speak to amendment. Councelor 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:49.896 Grundy. 00:09:49.920 --> 00:09:52.375 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. the reason I'm 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:54.616 putting this is in the interest of 00:09:54.640 --> 00:09:56.776 fairness and equity 00:09:56.800 --> 00:09:59.800 I have no problem that the community 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.856 are seeking additional funding for 00:10:02.880 --> 00:10:05.880 additional infrastructure. And indeed 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:10.216 if the facility is to be used as it 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.240 seems it is for all sorts of local 00:10:13.680 --> 00:10:16.680 groups then 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.255 they should be asking to fit it out 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.736 properly accordingly. However, I'm also 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:24.760 concerned that we have a number of 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:27.880 halls that are S33355 00:10:28.959 --> 00:10:31.959 managed and they also have a 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.000 number of items that they would like 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.120 to add to the the halls fit out and 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.255 I think this the better process rather 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.136 than us just making a one-off 00:10:48.160 --> 00:10:51.160 allocation here tonight, a more a I 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:54.456 guess a more accountable 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.480 approach to this is for it to be put 00:10:58.160 --> 00:11:00.856 in a a legitimate budget bid as part of 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:03.736 the process in setting the operational 00:11:03.760 --> 00:11:06.760 plan in the next several weeks. 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:09.656 Thank you, Councelor Grundy. Councelor 00:11:09.680 --> 00:11:12.680 Broadbent Yeah so I think 00:11:13.920 --> 00:11:15.976 some of the questions that councelor 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.000 Grundy has asked just then probably have 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.696 swayed me a little bit towards 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.935 supporting obviously councelor Grundy's 00:11:22.959 --> 00:11:25.959 motion I guess my understanding of 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:27.656 refunds is that you end up with a net 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:30.680 zero outcome and i.e. they pay 100 00:11:31.040 --> 00:11:32.856 bucks, you refund back 100 bucks, you 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:34.456 end up with zero bucks in your account, 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.480 right? Net zero so what was just 00:11:38.800 --> 00:11:41.800 explained to to us as I understand it is 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:44.920 that they've paid $100. We've paid $20 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.736 to New South Wales government and then 00:11:47.760 --> 00:11:49.176 we're going to be paying them $100 back 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.336 as a refund for money that we didn't 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.216 collect that we collected on behalf of 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.856 New South Wales government which to 00:11:56.880 --> 00:11:59.576 me I struggle to see how that fits 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.600 the category C funding 00:12:02.640 --> 00:12:05.640 of the donations policy and 00:12:05.680 --> 00:12:07.736 particularly given the report in front 00:12:07.760 --> 00:12:09.416 of us says that council considers 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:12.296 refunding fees or charges it doesn't 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:15.320 say we can you know I guess donate to 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:19.320 support any fees and charges it's a 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:21.656 refund of fees and charges that come to 00:12:21.680 --> 00:12:24.680 us which suggests a net zero outcome 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:27.800 and That's not what I I guess that's 00:12:28.959 --> 00:12:30.776 not what I want to see here. I think if 00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:32.935 we I'm happy to I mean I think it's 00:12:32.959 --> 00:12:35.959 probably a bit hard in this particular u 00:12:36.160 --> 00:12:38.456 I guess this debate to actually pivot 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.480 the donation profile to actually just 00:12:41.920 --> 00:12:44.920 relate to the council related fees. 00:12:45.680 --> 00:12:47.896 so therefore I'll be supporting this 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:50.375 motion in front of us and probably not 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:51.736 the other one. Thanks. 00:12:51.760 --> 00:12:54.760 Thank you. speaker on the amendment, 00:12:54.800 --> 00:12:56.296 councelor Willis. 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:57.576 Yes, thank you. I just wanted to 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.600 clarify. It's my understanding that the 00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:03.656 long service leave payment is a cost of 00:13:03.680 --> 00:13:06.680 building the hall. 00:13:06.959 --> 00:13:09.959 It's to do with the DA and what the 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.776 state government has collected. It's a 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:15.176 council facility. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.200 So, it's a cost. Well, it's a question. 00:13:18.560 --> 00:13:21.560 It's is it a cost of having constructed 00:13:21.920 --> 00:13:24.920 the council facility? 00:13:25.040 --> 00:13:27.976 This one for Melo. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.000 thank you through Mr. Mayor. Yes. 00:13:32.800 --> 00:13:34.296 Thank you. 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:35.976 Okay. Is there further discussion on the 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.615 amendment? Councelor Wilson. 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:40.216 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.240 I very briefly, Mayor, I think 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.576 some councilors at are at risk of 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.896 missing the big picture here. let's 00:13:47.920 --> 00:13:50.375 step back very clearly. this is a 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:53.399 general fund donation. the framing of 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:56.600 of donating back the fees is a frame 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:57.976 brought to us by the community 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.216 association for our own building by the 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.016 way. and all we are doing is out the 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:04.296 general fund saying yep we can have 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:05.976 those fees back. That's what's happening 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.255 here. We don't have to overthink this 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.175 and we just need to back the 00:14:09.199 --> 00:14:11.255 community project and which is 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.495 actually our our actual building. and 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.336 just to give a bit more context, this 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.360 was a this is a a bushfire project. This 00:14:18.560 --> 00:14:21.175 this was done in response to a bushfire 00:14:21.199 --> 00:14:22.856 that swept our region. This is not 00:14:22.880 --> 00:14:24.696 something and although I have great 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.856 respect for the all the section 355 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:28.375 communities, this is not about replacing 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:29.976 a kitchen that's you know whatever. This 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.976 is actually about finishing a facility 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.375 that was built in response to 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.055 community putting put under enormous 00:14:36.079 --> 00:14:38.136 strain through a bushfire. So, thank 00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:39.175 you, Mayor. 00:14:39.199 --> 00:14:40.935 You is there further discussion on the 00:14:40.959 --> 00:14:43.495 amendment? 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:44.935 I'll put the amendment. All those in 00:14:44.959 --> 00:14:47.495 favor, councilors Broadbent, Grundy, and 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:48.935 Schwack, and those against are 00:14:48.959 --> 00:14:50.776 councilors Preston, Tascoski, 00:14:50.800 --> 00:14:52.296 Waterhouse, Willis, Wilson, and 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:53.815 Winchester declare it lost. Is there 00:14:53.839 --> 00:14:55.896 further discussion on the motion? 00:14:55.920 --> 00:14:58.920 Council Broadbent. I guess um I just 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.935 wanted to very take this opportunity to 00:15:00.959 --> 00:15:02.375 respond to something that I guess 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.399 council Wilson said, but in relation to 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.440 this specific motion. Um look, this I I 00:15:10.079 --> 00:15:12.375 undoubtedly these facilities are 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:14.935 essential all across our 00:15:14.959 --> 00:15:17.959 electorate. we see I know my S355s 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:21.495 are key key areas for bushfire relief 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:23.416 and play a key role and keeping those 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:25.815 facilities up to date is also one of the 00:15:25.839 --> 00:15:27.495 ways that we bring our communities 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:30.519 together culturally as a as a central 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.536 place for the community to meet in these 00:15:32.560 --> 00:15:34.776 remote regions. I want to be very 00:15:34.800 --> 00:15:37.800 clear that by my choice to not support 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.696 this motion particularly relates to my 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.375 belief that we should be following our 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.399 policy clearly making so that we can 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.336 ensure that future decisions are fair 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.336 and accordance with the policies. And if 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.360 if this is something that we want to do 00:15:52.560 --> 00:15:54.296 in future, that's fine, but it should be 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.976 in the policy. And that's not what's 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:57.656 clear to me at the moment. And it's not 00:15:57.680 --> 00:15:59.416 what's clear. It's not clear to me that 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.175 that's what we're that we're compliant 00:16:01.199 --> 00:16:03.016 to our own policy based on the advice 00:16:03.040 --> 00:16:05.815 given by staff tonight. So that's the 00:16:05.839 --> 00:16:07.336 only reason I'm not supporting this 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.136 motion. I I hope the rest of you do in 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:11.576 some ways, but I guess my moral 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.216 foundation is not to support this mo 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.296 this this motion. Thanks. 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:17.815 Thank you, Councelor Broadman. Is there 00:16:17.839 --> 00:16:19.896 further discussion? I might just make a 00:16:19.920 --> 00:16:21.495 couple of very quick comments. So, 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.336 there's costs incurred when assessing a 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.255 DA. We all know that we've had many 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:26.776 requests like these in the past and we 00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:29.175 will in the future. In my experience, I 00:16:29.199 --> 00:16:30.296 think we've approved just about all of 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:31.815 them because they normally always come 00:16:31.839 --> 00:16:33.495 for not for-p profofit organizations 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.375 like respite care for Queenian. We've 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:37.815 got more that are going to coming up in 00:16:37.839 --> 00:16:39.016 the future. Councils are going to tell 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:40.375 you, I can guarantee you Bangador 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.136 Preschool will request their DA fees be 00:16:42.160 --> 00:16:43.896 wiped. I can guarantee you basketball 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:45.255 stadium are going to request their DA 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.735 fees be wiped. I don't think we can put 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.175 them off every time requests come 00:16:49.199 --> 00:16:51.255 through until the next year's budget. I 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:52.856 think we assess them when as they come 00:16:52.880 --> 00:16:53.976 through. I think there's nothing wrong 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.000 with us approving this this evening. Is 00:16:57.199 --> 00:16:59.656 there any further discussion? Would you 00:16:59.680 --> 00:17:01.016 like to sum up debate at all? Councelor 00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:01.976 Wilson. 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.495 Yeah. Yeah, I would. Thank you, Mayor. I 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.336 just want to quickly say that we are 00:17:05.360 --> 00:17:07.415 following policy. We don't we don't 00:17:07.439 --> 00:17:08.935 do things that are contrary to policy. 00:17:08.959 --> 00:17:11.096 So, happy to support that's why we're 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:12.856 moving this recommendation. and sec and 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.655 secondly very much look forward to 00:17:15.679 --> 00:17:17.815 the budget bids from the section 355 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.736 committees. and if you look at our 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:22.376 voting record, my voting record, I 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:23.895 think we've got a strong track record of 00:17:23.919 --> 00:17:24.935 supporting the community in their 00:17:24.959 --> 00:17:27.015 facilities much much more than 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.616 councils that continually vote against 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.216 community facilities getting funding 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.895 support. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to 00:17:31.919 --> 00:17:33.256 put the motion councils. All those in 00:17:33.280 --> 00:17:35.336 favor are councilors Preston, Schwiker, 00:17:35.360 --> 00:17:37.496 Tascowski, Waterhouse, Willis, Wilson, 00:17:37.520 --> 00:17:39.496 and Winchester and against councilors 00:17:39.520 --> 00:17:41.096 Broadbent and Grundy. I declare it 00:17:41.120 --> 00:17:43.895 carried. The next item council is 8.1 00:17:43.919 --> 00:17:45.496 which is construction of multi-dwelling 00:17:45.520 --> 00:17:47.496 housing comprising eight building 00:17:47.520 --> 00:17:49.576 containing 68 units earthworks 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:51.015 landscaping and associated site 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.176 infrastructure 60well drive Google. Do I 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:54.775 have a mover? Councelor Broadbent and a 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.799 second councelor Taskovski c like to 00:17:57.840 --> 00:17:59.256 speak to the item. Councelor Broadbent 00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:01.256 Taskski. Does any councilors like to 00:18:01.280 --> 00:18:04.056 speak to this item? Councelor Willis. 00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:05.736 Thank you. I wanted to thank the staff 00:18:05.760 --> 00:18:08.760 for answering my questions on the DA. 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.736 I don't understand where the idea came 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:14.760 from that almost all visitor parking 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:17.176 could be on street. These are not small 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.616 they're not three unitit developments. 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.640 It's 68 unit development. and it 00:18:21.679 --> 00:18:23.576 could be limited to 2 hours. It's barely 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:26.600 time to to visit someone to have a meal. 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.015 So, I really don't think I know the 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:30.696 point's been made in the response that 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.936 this is standard and been accepted, but 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:34.696 there'll be more of these developments, 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.535 large developments that have virtually 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.015 no visitor parking. 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.336 , so what is the effect going to be 00:18:41.360 --> 00:18:44.136 when there's one after the other, street 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.376 after street? People won't be able to 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.456 park. They'll be parking illegally and 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.176 then there'll be complaints. Like, I 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:52.616 just don't think that that's a 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.775 satisfactory policy. And I'd like to 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.799 know does anyone understand where it 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.056 came from or how it came to be 00:19:00.080 --> 00:19:02.456 considered acceptable cuz this is not I 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.015 know this is happened other times. This 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:08.039 is not the first time we've had this 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.336 a such a condition in a 00:19:11.360 --> 00:19:14.360 multi-dwelling development in Gong. 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:17.400 and I have raised it before, but who 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.216 thought this was a good idea and what 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.240 potential is there to revisit it? 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:26.056 Mao. 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:29.080 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. um the council um 00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:32.456 make the decisions and and help us to 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.856 shape our local government area. And so 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:36.616 in terms of who's been making the 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.096 decisions, you know, the council has 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:41.336 what I want to just remind you all of is 00:19:41.360 --> 00:19:44.360 that the 2-hour limitation is helpful 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:47.256 for business hours, for business days, 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:50.280 the five days of the week. on weekends. 00:19:50.320 --> 00:19:53.320 It is my understanding that um you can 00:19:53.520 --> 00:19:55.176 stay longer because clearly if you're 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.456 going to go somewhere for a Sunday 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:58.056 lunch, you're going to be there for more 00:19:58.080 --> 00:20:00.775 than two hours. I think that the thing I 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:03.576 look forward to doing is um progressing 00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:06.296 a consolidation of council's DCPs and 00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:07.976 actually potentially addressing these 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.000 issues more overtly because it is true 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.856 that these are decisions that are being 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:15.096 taken on every DA and it might not be 00:20:15.120 --> 00:20:17.736 something that you know um the wider 00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:20.760 community have had um oversight of. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.775 Thank you. Yes, I think um planning law 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.799 in general and um it certainly is an 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:30.840 impact on the environment broadly 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.015 often fails to take account of the 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:35.736 cumulative impact of individual 00:20:35.760 --> 00:20:38.760 decisions. So one one DA comes before us 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.576 and you know there's 14 car parks on the 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:43.655 street. The next one comes and there's 00:20:43.679 --> 00:20:45.976 another 14 and before you know it, 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.216 you've got six multi-dwelling 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.936 developments with several hundred units 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.096 in them with inadequate parking and 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:55.096 you've got a parking problem. And I 00:20:55.120 --> 00:20:56.696 would have thought that the problems we 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.416 have in parts of Queenian where we've 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.895 got infill housing in streets that are 00:21:01.919 --> 00:21:04.696 too narrow to accommodate all the 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.720 vehicles would have raised a flag 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:10.056 with someone who was developing the 00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:13.080 Gooong DCP which wasn't this council. So 00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:16.120 I do think it needs to be reviewed. Um 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.056 the other thing that is good to see is 00:21:18.080 --> 00:21:19.655 that the urban forest and cooling 00:21:19.679 --> 00:21:22.679 strategy is there's work underway 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:27.080 on um species for landscaping. I 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.096 understood there was perhaps it's 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:33.816 being updated there was a guide as to 00:21:33.840 --> 00:21:35.816 suitable species that's really 00:21:35.840 --> 00:21:38.840 important as the climate changes. Um 00:21:39.919 --> 00:21:41.816 the only other thing I was disappointed 00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:43.736 in is that someone would spend so much 00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:45.576 money on a development like this in this 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:48.056 day and age and not put solar panels on 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:50.936 integrate them into the development at 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.015 the start. It's always cheaper. you get 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:56.039 a better outcome and um one of the 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.256 problems for I guess it's equity 00:21:59.280 --> 00:22:01.976 really and resilience is that a lot 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.296 of renters don't have the the 00:22:04.320 --> 00:22:07.320 capacity to benefit from solar power 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.256 you know and as a individual unit owner 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:13.336 you can't go along and put solar panels 00:22:13.360 --> 00:22:16.360 on your on your part of the roof it 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.936 has to be done through this through the 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.960 whole strata plan and then getting you 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.176 68 owners to agree. Well, that's a 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:28.200 complicated and expensive process. So, I 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.056 think it's disappointing that people 00:22:30.080 --> 00:22:31.655 keep putting forward these large 00:22:31.679 --> 00:22:34.616 developments without incorporating 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.640 solar panels. You know, it's it's the 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:40.456 21st century. We know we need more 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.535 renewable energy. it it actually makes 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.559 these dwellings more marketable because 00:22:45.840 --> 00:22:48.775 they're going to save the occupants 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.376 money and they're going to contribute to 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.400 reducing emissions not increasing them. 00:22:53.679 --> 00:22:54.775 Thank you. Is there further discussion 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.799 on item 8.1 council Broadbent? 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.960 , I just wanted to state I guess that 00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:03.576 councelor Willis makes a very good point 00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:05.816 around parking and I think um certainly 00:23:05.840 --> 00:23:08.216 I'm sure myself and councelor Winchester 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:09.736 are well aware of the parking issues 00:23:09.760 --> 00:23:12.760 that do exist within Gooong. , and 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.135 I just want to remind everyone that we 00:23:14.159 --> 00:23:16.696 we do have the parking review underway 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.856 with with GooGong. And I I guess to 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.496 to staff I I certainly it would be good 00:23:21.520 --> 00:23:22.856 to have some of the points that council 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.576 will made looked at within that 00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:27.816 report as well. and I think that'll 00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:29.416 that should help us make a better more 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.655 informed decision around parking um in 00:23:31.679 --> 00:23:33.416 the future. So thank you. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:34.696 Thank you. I'm going to put the motion 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.576 councils. All those in favor is everyone 00:23:37.600 --> 00:23:39.336 except councelor Willis and against 00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:41.096 councelor Willis. I declare it carried. 00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:43.576 The next item is 8.3 the Monero street 00:23:43.600 --> 00:23:45.576 facade improvement program. Who have a 00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:47.015 mover for the recommendation? Councelor 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.416 Taskowski. Second councelor Wilson. Like 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.440 to speak to item councelor Taskski. 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.440 Yes Mr. Mayor. well, it's good idea 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.576 to do something after the street has 00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:01.816 been completed to do the facade outside 00:24:01.840 --> 00:24:04.840 to make it look good spending $17 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.960 million and to do $400,000 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.775 $100,000 property, but they want to 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.336 upgrade them little bit and do them 00:24:13.360 --> 00:24:15.176 properly. But that's why I'm very happy 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:17.816 to hear that recommended. 00:24:17.840 --> 00:24:19.816 Councelor Wilson. 00:24:19.840 --> 00:24:21.655 Thank you, Mayor. this is a very 00:24:21.679 --> 00:24:23.255 important project and we know that we've 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.015 got to get it delivered as fast as we 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:27.976 possibly can. Um and that we want to 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:29.655 make sure we get maximum bang for our 00:24:29.679 --> 00:24:31.096 buck. And I'll just those following 00:24:31.120 --> 00:24:33.416 along we have already allocated in 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.440 September 25 $250,000 from the budget 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.535 for the Monero Street upgrade for this 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:39.736 particular thing. And what we're doing 00:24:39.760 --> 00:24:42.056 is saying tonight, let's put 100K aside 00:24:42.080 --> 00:24:45.080 for for for facade upgrades at 10 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.856 $10,000 AP. So, I'll be very interested 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:50.376 to see if some of the people that have 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:53.400 been land banking for many years and um 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:55.655 if this gets a bit of investment 00:24:55.679 --> 00:24:57.496 flowing but we'll get a further 00:24:57.520 --> 00:24:58.856 report on that. So, happy to support 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.880 this as is and take it forward. Thank 00:25:01.919 --> 00:25:03.976 you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Wilson. 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:05.496 Councelor Willis. 00:25:05.520 --> 00:25:07.655 Yes, thank you. Um I had some questions 00:25:07.679 --> 00:25:09.816 on this which have been answered, but I 00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:11.096 they kind of raised some other 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:14.120 questions. I mean, we had a main streets 00:25:14.159 --> 00:25:17.015 program last term, I think it was, 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:18.936 that attracted absolutely no interest 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.960 from Queenian Monero Street um 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.279 property owners. So, that's an issue. 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:28.856 I don't know what level of support there 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:31.576 will be, but one of my concerns is we're 00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:34.456 told there's potentially 39 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.480 um eligible premises. 00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:40.216 but there's not enough money to give 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.240 39 premises $10,000 each. So 00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:46.535 theoretically, if council were to decide 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.255 to give them all $10,000 each, that's a 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.976 much a more substantial 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.000 investment than $100,000, which is how 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.816 this has come to us. So I I think it 00:25:57.840 --> 00:26:00.056 would have been more helpful to have 00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:03.080 had some criteria as to how we would 00:26:03.679 --> 00:26:06.616 deal with an over subscription 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.775 um rather than suggesting oh you can 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.096 just top it up because what it does is 00:26:11.120 --> 00:26:14.120 it doesn't give us any um parameters um 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.880 to start with. the the other issue I 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.416 have is why would we give money to 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.576 business owners of properties who've 00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:26.135 let them sit vacant year after year in 00:26:26.159 --> 00:26:29.159 some cases decade after decade. Why 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.559 would we give community money to those 00:26:33.840 --> 00:26:36.840 people who haven't been bothered to 00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:39.976 spend money on their own properties and 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.895 trying to find tenants? I understand 00:26:41.919 --> 00:26:44.535 it's difficult to find tenants but the 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.736 some of these properties have been 00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:48.760 vacant for a very long time. Um I also I 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.576 really doubt that it's feasible for all 00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:54.296 this work to be undertaken while the 00:26:54.320 --> 00:26:56.856 contractors like in the time frame when 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.416 the contractors will be working on the 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.056 street all the way through to December. 00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:04.856 So there's not enough information here 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.255 to give me any confidence that it is 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.255 actually feasible. are we going to 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.279 end up having the street open and lots 00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:13.976 of work being done so people can't 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.135 actually walk down the footpath? I 00:27:16.159 --> 00:27:17.976 will support this at this stage because 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.976 another report is coming to council but 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.296 I think the next report needs to provide 00:27:22.320 --> 00:27:25.096 a lot more detail on how this would work 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:28.120 and the justifications for um giving any 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:29.816 money to people who've let their 00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:32.840 properties sit vacant. you know how 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.816 can we be confident that that's a a 00:27:35.840 --> 00:27:38.840 worthwhile investment? um for for the 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:41.576 community's funds. 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:43.255 Thanks, Councelor Willis. Is there 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.176 further discussion? Councelor Broadman. 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.336 through you, Mr. Mayor. could 00:27:47.360 --> 00:27:50.360 staff please clarify for me whether or 00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:53.336 not this So this it the implication is 00:27:53.360 --> 00:27:55.015 that funding is coming out of I guess 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.936 contingency for the Monero Street 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.960 project. Is that what's it says there? 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.616 Through Mr. Mayor, no. The proposal is 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.255 that it's a it's a budget allocation in 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.279 the 2627 operational plan, not from the 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.880 Monero Street project funding. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.816 Sure. Wonderful. I guess that Yeah, just 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:15.736 a weird way it was word in the 00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:18.535 background. I think this is a good 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.559 plan. Um 00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:24.375 but um I would like to move an amendment 00:28:24.399 --> 00:28:27.336 that this be deferred um because I don't 00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:29.015 feel like there's actually enough 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.736 clarity within this project within 00:28:31.760 --> 00:28:34.760 this funding bid that to provide um I 00:28:36.159 --> 00:28:39.015 guess clear clear outcomes of what we're 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:40.616 actually spending the money on if that 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:41.255 makes sense. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.616 Before you talk to your amendment, let's 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.056 just get your amendment up on the board 00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:47.080 and you can explain. So that the item be 00:28:47.840 --> 00:28:50.840 deferred until before 00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:53.976 till a report on to council is provided 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.736 as to 00:28:55.760 --> 00:28:57.895 I don't know the information further 00:28:57.919 --> 00:29:00.216 information on what the I guess I I need 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.015 more detail around what the 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.775 improvements are going to be. I'd love 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.456 to see before we agree to spend money, 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.056 I'd love to see actual projects come 00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:10.936 forward because I think just saying 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:11.976 yeah, we're going to have the money 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.216 there is because I I'd happily spend 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.736 slightly more than that if we have a 00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:18.135 great pro couple of projects is I guess 00:29:18.159 --> 00:29:20.856 the point. 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.856 All right. So, general manager, you're 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:24.775 happy with or is that give you the 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.056 sufficient information that you know 00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:28.056 what council Broadbent's after by 00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:30.696 deferring the item 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.336 through Mr. Mayor? As I understand, 00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:34.856 it looks like you're wanting to know 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.616 what the projects are before council 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.096 will agree to the funding. 00:29:39.120 --> 00:29:40.856 That's correct. 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.015 Okay. We need a seconder for council 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:44.696 Broadbent's amendment. Councelor 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.616 Waterhouse. Okay. Councelor Broadman 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.296 will attempt to explain again. 00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:49.655 Yeah. 00:29:49.679 --> 00:29:52.216 Sorry, my my my my clarity of English 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.296 tonight may not be the best. It just is. 00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:56.296 Um, 00:29:56.320 --> 00:29:58.056 I think for these kind of this kind of 00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:00.535 work, um, I think just giving a blanket 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.176 10 grand per property for an improvement 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.200 project, great in principle, but 00:30:06.399 --> 00:30:08.296 fundamentally, if we've got a if we've 00:30:08.320 --> 00:30:10.456 got a number of projects that might add 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.616 up to even more than this that would 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.496 substantially improve , Monero Street, 00:30:15.520 --> 00:30:17.655 then I want I would happily support 00:30:17.679 --> 00:30:20.296 that. I think just doing a blanket I 00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:22.856 mean I guess I I get the approach but I 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.015 think doing it on a buy property basis 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.096 is potentially not the way and I'm not 00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:28.135 comfortable that we've got a clear 00:30:28.159 --> 00:30:29.255 understanding what we're spending that 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.655 money on at this point in time and I 00:30:31.679 --> 00:30:33.976 would actually prefer to see staff go 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.000 out get projects collected and then put 00:30:38.159 --> 00:30:41.159 those forward as either an omnibus 00:30:41.840 --> 00:30:44.456 budget bid or um a series of smaller 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.176 budget bids that help build this into a 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.200 bit of a more structured um budget item. 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:51.496 Thank you. 00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:52.616 Thank you, Councelor Broadbent. 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.775 Councelor Waterhouse. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. 00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.799 Um 00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.056 Councelor Broadben's having trouble with 00:31:00.080 --> 00:31:02.216 his words tonight. Um I'm an English 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.976 teacher and we need to slightly change 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.296 it. I support the principle of it, but 00:31:06.320 --> 00:31:07.895 the language is not quite correct 00:31:07.919 --> 00:31:10.296 because I believe it means what it means 00:31:10.320 --> 00:31:13.320 to say is consideration of this item be 00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:16.616 deferred until 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.640 further additional information 00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:22.696 consisting of more detail on what the 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.696 improvements are going to be is 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.720 supplied. 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.640 So, I'm supporting the principle that we 00:31:33.840 --> 00:31:36.840 have a clearer idea of of what what it's 00:31:37.919 --> 00:31:39.576 going to look like. Is this a paint job? 00:31:39.600 --> 00:31:42.135 Is this is this a 00:31:42.159 --> 00:31:45.159 replacements of facades completely? It's 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.519 um it's a it's a it's a principle and I 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.336 and I agree with it and I do think we 00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:53.816 should do it, but I'd like to see more 00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:55.895 information and I think is that are you 00:31:55.919 --> 00:31:58.216 happy with that wording? Is that okay, 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.240 Mr. Mayor, that we do it that way? 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.775 Has the minute secretary been able to 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.216 update? 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:05.816 Y happy with that change, Council 00:32:05.840 --> 00:32:06.616 Broadman? 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:07.416 I am. Yeah. 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.296 Okay. Y Okay. You've come you finished, 00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:11.255 Council Waterhouse? 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.216 Yes. Thank you, 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.056 Council Willis. 00:32:14.080 --> 00:32:15.895 Thank you. I don't have the full agenda 00:32:15.919 --> 00:32:18.919 on my screen here, but my recollection 00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:21.495 of this of the report in the business 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.519 paper is that it states a report will 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.736 be coming if council agrees to the 00:32:27.760 --> 00:32:30.375 recommendation, a report will be coming 00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:33.399 to council in June 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.440 with more with the list of um the 00:32:37.679 --> 00:32:39.976 assessment criteria 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.696 and a number of other things. So if this 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.856 if the council supports the 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.336 amendment, nothing will happen unless 00:32:47.360 --> 00:32:50.296 and until it's adopted in the budget, 00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:53.255 which it'll be the 24th of June, and 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.816 then you'd start the process. How on 00:32:55.840 --> 00:32:58.840 earth would people how would we have 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.655 a process that would be completed by 00:33:01.679 --> 00:33:04.296 December like on the current timeline? 00:33:04.320 --> 00:33:05.736 Maybe that's not important. I don't 00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:08.760 know. But my understanding is and 00:33:09.120 --> 00:33:11.416 maybe it needs an amendment to the 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.495 recommendation 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.976 um 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.616 but I can't think of one off the top 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.535 of my head. But I mean we're basically 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.176 going to if the council endorses the 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.056 recommendation, we're going to get a 00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:29.080 report on how this would work. So, it 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.200 seems to me we're being asked tonight to 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.856 almost give in principal support to 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.775 allocating up to this much money. Maybe 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.176 it'll be more depending on who applies 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.816 and we'll get more detail. But it's to 00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:43.976 start the process, not to slow it down 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.816 until the budget's been adopted, which 00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:47.976 is 10 weeks away or something, isn't it? 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.216 Oh, it's more than April May. Yeah, 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.936 about 10 weeks away. 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.096 So, I'm just I'm not sure that the 00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:56.456 amendment's necessary. 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:57.816 Yeah. So I'll just read it out for 00:33:57.840 --> 00:34:00.135 councils. So the full list of 00:34:00.159 --> 00:34:01.816 applications and projects will be 00:34:01.840 --> 00:34:02.936 presented to council with 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.535 recommendations based on the assessment 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.616 criteria for consideration at the 10th 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.776 of June meeting. If the program is overs 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.296 subscribed, council can decide to 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.296 increase the total funding available at 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.176 the 24th of June meeting when the 2526 00:34:15.200 --> 00:34:16.936 operational plan is adopted. So I 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.496 honestly think the amendment almost gets 00:34:19.520 --> 00:34:21.256 us to the same point as the original 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.256 motion anyway. you I think what you're 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.095 trying to get to is what staff intend to 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.119 do anyway. So I'm not sure it's actually 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.159 required but 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.016 yeah that's what we're up to. So we'll 00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:34.456 continue discussion on the amendment. 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.335 Councelor Wilson. thank you Mayor. 00:34:37.359 --> 00:34:38.536 yeah I'll be voting against the 00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:39.575 amendment because as you've just 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.496 articulated well I don't think we really 00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:43.176 need it. And secondly I do think there 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:45.176 is an impetus here and we're go back to 00:34:45.200 --> 00:34:47.895 first principles. We really have got one 00:34:47.919 --> 00:34:49.815 chance to get this right. Like you know 00:34:49.839 --> 00:34:51.176 we need to get this upgrade right. And 00:34:51.200 --> 00:34:53.095 this is if you look at the paper it has 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:54.696 a timeline in there and the timeline is 00:34:54.720 --> 00:34:56.296 critical so that we can try and get all 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.136 these works done when we open the main 00:34:58.160 --> 00:34:59.976 street hopefully at the end of the year 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.616 touch wood even laminated wood that 00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:05.496 that we get to that point. So I 00:35:05.520 --> 00:35:07.176 think we need to move forward with the 00:35:07.200 --> 00:35:08.856 original recommendation but I do 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.376 appreciate where council Broadbent's 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:11.256 coming from. Thank you. 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:12.936 Thank you. Further discussion on the 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.335 amendment. Councelor Grundy. 00:35:15.359 --> 00:35:16.856 Thank you Mr. Mayor. I don't believe 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.880 there's any timeline on this particular 00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:22.776 project. 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.800 There's no rush for this facade project 00:35:25.839 --> 00:35:28.839 that I'm aware of. Is there Mr. Mayor? 00:35:29.359 --> 00:35:31.095 So in the if you got the business paper 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.296 in front of you, I think there's a a 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:33.736 suggested time because there's a 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.016 timeline in there because obviously 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:37.095 staff want this work to be undertaken 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.216 July to September 00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:40.376 while the main street in 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.376 correct. There's no requirement in terms 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.400 of linked to a a grant um expectation or 00:35:45.839 --> 00:35:48.136 anything like that. That's the point I'm 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:51.160 trying to make. Um as far as if I may 00:35:51.359 --> 00:35:54.359 speak to the amendment, um 00:35:54.640 --> 00:35:57.640 I think I think it's a valid amendment. 00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:01.335 When I looked at the recommendation, it 00:36:01.359 --> 00:36:04.359 talk it effectively talks about us 00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:07.256 allocating money before we've actually 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.976 developed the program. If you go and 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.136 read it, the words talk about us 00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:15.016 endorsing the development of so we 00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:17.335 haven't even got something before before 00:36:17.359 --> 00:36:20.359 us. It's yet to be developed. We have 00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:23.256 some ideas around assessment criteria, 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.280 but as councelor Willis um pointed out 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.119 those that broad um list of 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.815 assessment criteria doesn't exclude 00:36:33.839 --> 00:36:36.216 vacant properties that I can see. 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:38.616 they can still apply with that broad 00:36:38.640 --> 00:36:41.640 assessment criteria. Um 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.696 and the major concern I have with this 00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:47.720 is while it is 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.776 um well-intentioned and I would embrace 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.800 it in a heartbeat if it really did 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.920 achieve what is it is trying to achieve 00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.960 on paper anyway. Um we haven't actually 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.176 got any feedback from businesses. We 00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:04.696 don't know whether they would support 00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:07.720 this or not. This is an idea come from 00:37:08.560 --> 00:37:10.856 somewhere. I know a previous council has 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:13.575 done something similar. But surely if 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.416 we're going to be allocating money, 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.815 whether it's 100,000 to begin with and 00:37:17.839 --> 00:37:20.616 further allocation, surely that 00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:22.936 should be based on very solid ground 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.335 that we are giving businesses what they 00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:28.359 want, not guesswork. And from what I can 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.880 see, we're trying to do something that's 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.896 well-intentioned 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.920 that feeds into um the renewal 00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:40.200 process that's all already underway, but 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.480 we haven't asked the people who are at 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.599 the center of this and are either likely 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.335 to take it take it up or not take it up. 00:37:49.359 --> 00:37:51.335 Surely that should have been one of the 00:37:51.359 --> 00:37:53.815 first things that we did and we haven't. 00:37:53.839 --> 00:37:55.656 We not only haven't asked them, we've 00:37:55.680 --> 00:37:57.896 got no feedback from them on which to 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.920 base our decision. So I think it's 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.599 prudent that we do defer this and we 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:06.456 answer some of the questions that are 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.480 outstanding. 00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:11.575 Thank you, Councelor Grundy. Is there 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.575 further discussion on the amendment? I 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.016 might make a couple of quick comments 00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:17.815 myself on the on the thingy hole. I 00:38:17.839 --> 00:38:19.815 guess when we're talking about some of 00:38:19.839 --> 00:38:22.839 these businesses or premises that have 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.960 been empty for a very very long time, I 00:38:26.560 --> 00:38:28.776 know you say, "Well, do we know they're 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.136 going to do anything? If we do offer 00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:31.575 them this, I feel like if we just sit on 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.256 our hands and don't do anything, we're 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.095 going to end up in the same situation 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.055 we've been in." It took a land owner to 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.216 pass away for something to happen with a 00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:42.136 former com building. That building was 00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:44.216 empty since 2008. 00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:46.776 and it took someone someone had to die 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:49.016 before something happened down there. I 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:51.176 think even if if we get ignored by these 00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:52.696 business owners then that's totally up 00:38:52.720 --> 00:38:54.616 to them. But at least we can be seen 00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:56.055 saying we're trying to do something. We 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.216 want all of those shop fronts to be open 00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:00.296 and if this this is one way to do it 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.536 then that's great. In 2012 I remember 00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:03.736 this project was one of the first things 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.496 we did when I was very first elected to 00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:08.296 to city council and several businesses 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:09.815 took it up and you can still still see 00:39:09.839 --> 00:39:11.095 the benefits of it when you go down the 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.856 main street. They're nicely painted and 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.416 they're the ones that look nice. We do 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:16.856 know that we've got a team out there. 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.776 They've been talking very regularly with 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.216 how Manara Street businesses and a lot 00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:23.240 of them have taken up the initial um the 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.136 initial project where we where they sat 00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:27.736 down with a designer and ran through 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.095 their facades and different things they 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.296 might be able to do with their shop 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.216 fronts. I think a lot of them will take 00:39:32.240 --> 00:39:34.616 us up on this opportunity for 00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:37.095 improvement. I've met with one business 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.496 owner in particular that I know would be 00:39:39.520 --> 00:39:41.416 very very interested in or it's two 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.176 actually that absolutely will be putting 00:39:43.200 --> 00:39:44.856 forward a project that for us to 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.496 consider in June. As I said before to 00:39:47.520 --> 00:39:49.416 councilors Broadbent and Waterhouse I 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.896 think everyone's on the same page about 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.416 not just giving card blanch we're just 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:54.536 going to give this money away. We 00:39:54.560 --> 00:39:55.976 actually want to know what you want to 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:57.575 do and we're spending it wisely and I 00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:58.776 think that report will come back in 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.936 June. We'll make our decision then. So 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.456 I'm not going to support the amendment. 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.136 I'm going to support the original motion 00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:06.376 if the amendment is lost, but I think we 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.456 are all all most of us are on the same 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.536 page about what we want to see from 00:40:10.560 --> 00:40:12.296 staff. I think this is a clear 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.776 indication to the businesses owners out 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.776 there that we do want to support them. 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.616 We know that there's a tough time at the 00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:20.136 moment with what's happening with the 00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:21.656 main street. This is a clear indication 00:40:21.680 --> 00:40:23.656 to them that we are backing them. We 00:40:23.680 --> 00:40:25.095 want to see them spending money on their 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.256 facades. We want people using their 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.016 businesses and this is a great way for 00:40:29.040 --> 00:40:31.656 us to do it. Now, further discussion on 00:40:31.680 --> 00:40:34.136 the amendment? If not, I'm going to ask 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:35.575 C. Yeah, councelor Grundy 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.416 a question. Um, 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.416 Mr. Mayor, do you really think 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.095 businesses and the broader population 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.119 are going to congratulate council for 00:40:44.240 --> 00:40:47.240 spending or putting up a h 100,000 00:40:47.839 --> 00:40:50.296 potentially for 30 businesses to bid 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.320 for. The risk is we could be laughed at, 00:40:53.359 --> 00:40:55.575 that we are not being genuine about 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.656 this, that we're just trying to do 00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:00.680 something um almost a a hip reaction to 00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:03.335 to put on paper to make it look like 00:41:03.359 --> 00:41:05.016 we're doing something. 00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:06.856 Is that a question from me? 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.815 Yes. Or or whomever? You you've just 00:41:09.839 --> 00:41:11.575 stated you've been dealing with 00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:13.335 businesses and talking to them. So have 00:41:13.359 --> 00:41:16.359 I. Um 100,000 divided by 30 businesses, 00:41:17.839 --> 00:41:20.839 there's not a lot there. So how do you 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.176 respond to the potential that 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:25.176 do I need to read it out again that if 00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:27.016 we have if it's overs subscribed they'll 00:41:27.040 --> 00:41:28.456 come back to council we make a decision 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.016 then because it's clearly from staff 00:41:31.040 --> 00:41:33.335 they've told us how it's going to work. 00:41:33.359 --> 00:41:35.416 I hope that all 39 businesses come back 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:36.936 to us and say we'd love to spend money 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.176 and do something and this is and we have 00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:41.256 39 projects to run through. That's 00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.256 probably not going to happen. But with 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.936 those business owners that are that are 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.496 out there and are interested, then I 00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:49.335 think this sends them a clear indication 00:41:49.359 --> 00:41:50.856 that we're there backing them. 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.696 But Mr. Mayor, that is not what the 00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:55.416 recommendation says. It doesn't say 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.440 where we could come back for more. 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.616 We have the advice from staff about how 00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:02.536 it will work if if it's oversubscribed. 00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:04.295 You've got that answer in the 00:42:04.319 --> 00:42:05.575 supplementary agenda that went out to 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.335 councilors today. Is there any further 00:42:07.359 --> 00:42:08.856 discussion? I'll ask councelor Bman to 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.696 sum up debate on his amendment. 00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:13.720 Yeah, thanks Mr. Mayor, look, I I 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.656 broadly agree with your points. Um, but 00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:18.456 I do think councelor Grundy has made a a 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.456 strong argument and essentially 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.095 articulated it much better than me um 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.055 around my concerns with this. I think 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.696 particularly point two of allocating 100 00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:31.720 grand um having no clear I guess 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.295 pre-analysis that shows us where we're 00:42:34.319 --> 00:42:37.319 going with this is is not a risk that 00:42:37.839 --> 00:42:39.256 I'm willing to take in terms of my 00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:40.616 budget process. That's not what we do 00:42:40.640 --> 00:42:43.095 with other budget bids. We get people 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:44.856 asking for, hey, I want to do these kind 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.176 of things and then we bid um we apply 00:42:47.200 --> 00:42:49.815 that um or counter. We have a strategy 00:42:49.839 --> 00:42:52.616 that tells us what we're bidding on. Um 00:42:52.640 --> 00:42:54.376 yes, this fits within the others, but I 00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.400 think just a a broad 100 grand um with 00:42:58.160 --> 00:43:00.055 the hope that this this comes along is 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.896 not the not the way round that I want to 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.920 see it happen. , and as as I said 00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:07.896 before, um, my preference would be we 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.736 have a whole bunch of businesses working 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.055 together and if they want 200 grand, 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.136 great. Um, but I want to see those 00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:16.216 projects come forward first as part of 00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:18.776 the budget bid. Thank you. We 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.216 put the amendment. All in favor of the 00:43:20.240 --> 00:43:23.095 amendment, councils Broadbent, Grundy, 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.016 Schwacket, and Waterhouse. And against, 00:43:25.040 --> 00:43:26.936 councils Preston, Tascowski, Willis, 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.376 Wilson, Winchester. So I declare it 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.055 lost. We go back to the motion. Is there 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.136 any further discussion on the motion? If 00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:33.416 not, I'll put the motion. All those in 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.496 favor of the motion are councilors 00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:37.736 Preston, Tascowski, Waterhouse, Willis, 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.256 Wilson, Winchester, and against. 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.616 Councilors Broadbent, Grundy, and 00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:42.536 Schwacket. I declare it carried. The 00:43:42.560 --> 00:43:45.560 next item is 8.4 Arrow and Majes Creek 00:43:46.160 --> 00:43:48.776 Bin Compound use. We have a mover for 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.376 the recommendation. Councilors, 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.776 Councelor Waterhouse, and a second, 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.575 Councelor Taskski. Councelor Waterhouse. 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.536 Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Um, I thank the the 00:43:58.560 --> 00:44:00.616 council staff for spending a lot of 00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:03.095 time dealing with the the communities 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.055 of Araluan and Majes Creek, particularly 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.496 the general manager who was out there 00:44:07.520 --> 00:44:10.520 last last week as was my colleague 00:44:10.720 --> 00:44:13.720 Councelor Willis um speaking to Araluan 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.920 crowd. Um I think this this is a 00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:19.815 perfectly safe and and sensible 00:44:19.839 --> 00:44:22.536 approach to take. the staff have worked 00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:25.256 diligently at at making this work and 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:27.016 I think the people of the community 00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:29.335 appreciate that and um and they're 00:44:29.359 --> 00:44:30.536 coming along with us on this little 00:44:30.560 --> 00:44:32.536 journey. 00:44:32.560 --> 00:44:34.136 Thank you. Is there further discussion? 00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:36.295 Councelor Taskski is a second. 00:44:36.319 --> 00:44:38.776 yes, Mr. Mayor. I just staff to be 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:40.616 congratulated. They're doing always good 00:44:40.640 --> 00:44:42.696 job and we trying to twist it sometimes, 00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:45.016 but it's a good job for this one. Well 00:44:45.040 --> 00:44:46.456 done. Thank 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.216 you, Council Willis. 00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.376 thank you. Yes, I had some follow-up 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.016 questions from the responses to my 00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:55.736 written questions. So, I am concerned 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.760 that it could be as far as 100 meters 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.440 for people to take their um items to 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.920 dispose in the bins. Um and that might 00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:09.736 be fine for fit people. But, if 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.760 people are carting a lot of recycled 00:45:13.520 --> 00:45:15.416 materials, I'm just wondering whether 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.440 100 m is a bit too far. And I'd like to 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.496 ask that the council talk to the both 00:45:21.520 --> 00:45:24.520 communities about you know whether um 00:45:25.520 --> 00:45:28.520 it's feasible to have a shorter distance 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.536 make sure that people can will be able 00:45:30.560 --> 00:45:33.256 to easily use the facilities otherwise 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.976 there's no point you know having them. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.000 Um my 00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:42.040 oh the other I had asked about um an 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.815 estimated time for the FOGO bins for 00:45:45.839 --> 00:45:48.839 both communities and there was some 00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:51.656 discussion during the development of the 00:45:51.680 --> 00:45:54.456 waste strategy 00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.480 that it's not required until 2030. 00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:00.456 Um but 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.416 this response says if the community 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.976 sorry if the community decided that an 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.815 earlier date was preferable council can 00:46:07.839 --> 00:46:10.696 implement it. So how's how might that 00:46:10.720 --> 00:46:13.656 happen? Does the do the progress 00:46:13.680 --> 00:46:15.896 associations have to write to the 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.920 council to ask for that? Obviously it 00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.440 needs to go into um a management plan 00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:25.720 and a budget. So that's a question 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.176 Mr. Cunningham. 00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:31.256 thanks Mr. Mayor. Look any of those 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.136 options are um the the progress 00:46:34.160 --> 00:46:35.815 association the community says that's a 00:46:35.839 --> 00:46:38.376 good avenue. There is going to be some 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.400 consultations you can see as a result of 00:46:41.839 --> 00:46:44.295 um the opening hours which is going to 00:46:44.319 --> 00:46:47.319 be um a means of dealing with what is 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.295 a loss of services for the greenway. So 00:46:52.319 --> 00:46:53.656 that could be another opportunity and I 00:46:53.680 --> 00:46:55.656 think that would be a good opportunity 00:46:55.680 --> 00:46:58.680 to sound out for those particular 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.800 affected people or consumers as far as 00:47:02.319 --> 00:47:05.319 um as far as the Foggo implementation 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:06.456 goes. 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.776 Thank you. 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:10.136 Is there further discussion? Council 00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:11.095 Broadbent, 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.936 I just had a quick question on I don't 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.376 think I saw it in here, but we're 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.216 talking about making improvements to 00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:18.295 Major Street and Araluan, but there's no 00:47:18.319 --> 00:47:21.319 cost outlined. Could staff clarify 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:26.376 Mr. Cunningham. 00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.696 the only thing that I did notice and 00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:31.335 I it has got a an item covered in the 00:47:31.359 --> 00:47:34.136 finance and budget where it says that it 00:47:34.160 --> 00:47:36.055 includes the improvements to the major 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.079 creek. Um these are virtually like 00:47:40.640 --> 00:47:42.295 probably chicanees and a bit of pipe 00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:44.456 work or fencing work that prevents 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.480 vehicular. So um I yes the amount of 00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:49.815 money hasn't been issu indicated there 00:47:49.839 --> 00:47:52.776 but it it does um clearly say that it's 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.456 covered under the operational plan and 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.376 budget. 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.295 Sorry and just so just to clarify this 00:47:58.319 --> 00:48:01.319 is already budgeted for um within reserv 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.335 I guess it's really hard to make a 00:48:03.359 --> 00:48:04.696 decision as a councelor when we don't 00:48:04.720 --> 00:48:07.416 have a a cost implication or which is 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.976 you know voting on resources is kind of 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.216 the job. 00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:14.295 Yes. Thank you Mr. Mayor. It's not it's 00:48:14.319 --> 00:48:16.216 not asking for an uplift. It is covered 00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:18.376 under the operational plan and it will 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.216 be covered under the operational plan 00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:23.240 for the waste services. Thanks Mr. 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:24.535 Cunningham. 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.295 Is there further discussion? If not, 00:48:26.319 --> 00:48:27.575 we'll put the motion. All those in 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.599 favor. That's unanimous and carried. 8.5 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.736 is a community feedback on South Charlie 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.616 wicker exhibition. Do we have a mover? 00:48:36.640 --> 00:48:37.976 I'm happy to move from the chair and 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:39.416 secondly councelor Preston. Is there any 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.095 discussion? We'll put the motion. All in 00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:42.936 favor? There is discussion. Councelor 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:43.656 Willis. 00:48:43.680 --> 00:48:45.335 thank you. I just wanted to make the 00:48:45.359 --> 00:48:48.055 point that it it is important that when 00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.079 new facilities develop there that 00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:53.976 council's involved at the design stage. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.295 that that hasn't happened in the 00:48:56.319 --> 00:48:59.319 past. and if they're going to become 00:48:59.359 --> 00:49:01.176 public facilities, I know that that's 00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:03.335 that's the commitment in the in the 00:49:03.359 --> 00:49:05.256 agreement, but it is very important 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.896 because they become our facilities which 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.776 as we know the growing list of new 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.800 facilities that we have to manage. They 00:49:13.839 --> 00:49:16.295 have to be right for the community from 00:49:16.319 --> 00:49:18.456 our point of view and we're the ones 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.376 responsible for running them and 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.400 depreciating them. So, um I do hope that 00:49:23.520 --> 00:49:25.815 that will happen. 00:49:25.839 --> 00:49:27.176 Thanks, Councelor Willis. Absolutely 00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:28.696 agree. Someone that's been to the dog 00:49:28.720 --> 00:49:30.295 park, been to the community center, been 00:49:30.319 --> 00:49:31.896 to the new town park, they're just about 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.896 the best in the entire council area. And 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.496 I congratulate the developer on the work 00:49:35.520 --> 00:49:36.456 they've done there. And I'm actually 00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.295 very jealous of some of the stuff 00:49:38.319 --> 00:49:40.616 they have there compared to what we 00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:42.376 have out at Googong. Um I'm going to put 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.456 the motion councils, all those in favor, 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.936 that's unanimous and carried. 8.6 is the 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.256 Queen Aquatics Center Capital Works 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.280 project change request. We have a mover 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:53.815 council. Councelor Willer seconded 00:49:53.839 --> 00:49:56.055 councelor Wilson. Any discussion? 00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:57.416 Councelor Grundy 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.440 question um with the change to um 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.960 essential equipment upgrades from what 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.496 was previously allocated around tile 00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:09.656 replacements etc if my memory serves for 00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:12.680 me correctly. Um is there any danger in 00:50:13.520 --> 00:50:16.216 those um 00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:19.240 upgrades not being done in terms of um 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:22.680 those users having issues safety issues 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.256 around t tiles? 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:26.936 Miss Richards. 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.856 through you, Mr. Mayor. There was 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.095 some um uplifting of some of the tiles 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:32.616 surrounding the pool and we're able to 00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:35.256 patch repair that to to make sure that 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.896 there isn't any immediate danger to 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.776 people tripping and falling. 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.136 Okay. If there's no further discuss, 00:50:42.160 --> 00:50:43.815 there is. Councelor Preston, 00:50:43.839 --> 00:50:45.815 I did have a question. Um I I noticed 00:50:45.839 --> 00:50:48.839 that the um reting of the pool is 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.136 still required in the future and there's 00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:52.776 a revised allocation of double the 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.256 amount that was allocated for this. 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.280 Have I am I getting that incorrect or is 00:50:59.839 --> 00:51:02.376 through you Mr. Mayor. Um that's 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.856 correct. We we believe that retiling 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.696 is will still be necessary in the 00:51:06.720 --> 00:51:07.896 future. We're not sure how long the 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.856 patching will last. It's It's double 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.880 what was originally allocated, but the 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.000 quote came back a response to our tender 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.216 request came back at 375. I think it's 00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:21.016 in the report. 00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:22.136 388. 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:24.936 Okay. So, the um the quote was much 00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.256 higher than what we anticipated anyway. 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.136 So, we've put in a 15% increase over the 00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:32.295 next two years, anticipating that that 00:51:32.319 --> 00:51:35.319 will cover the retiling in 2728. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.616 Yeah. So, I'm I I will support this um 00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:40.696 this recommendation, but I I just 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:42.136 wanted to make the point perhaps on the 00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:43.736 back of what councelor Grundy was just 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.535 saying that we didn't do need to take 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.936 care that routine maintenance that 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.335 we've already allocated that we we're 00:51:51.359 --> 00:51:54.359 putting off doesn't end up costing us a 00:51:55.359 --> 00:51:58.359 heck of a lot more in um in the future 00:51:59.040 --> 00:52:00.535 because we have put it off. So, we just 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.136 need to to be careful that we get the 00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:03.416 balance right on those things. But I 00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:04.936 will be supporting the the 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:06.216 recommendation as it stands. 00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:07.896 Thank you, Councelor Preston. If there's 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.016 no further discussion, I'll put the 00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:11.335 motion all in favor. That's unanimous 00:52:11.359 --> 00:52:13.976 and carried. 8.7 is the application for 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.456 a council cultural grant. Have a move 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.055 councilors, councelor Preston and 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.936 councelor Schwit. Councelor Preston. 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.960 yeah, I just wanted to to to um 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.976 quickly point out how what a what a 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.000 great organization um Rise Above is. um 00:52:31.359 --> 00:52:32.936 as as somebody who has personally 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.335 benefited from that organization over 00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:38.359 the last 12 months. Um and the 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.295 we we've seen in in Bondor the success 00:52:44.319 --> 00:52:47.319 of the the the Monopoly um 00:52:50.640 --> 00:52:52.616 game. It's it's sold very well in Bonor. 00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:54.295 There are still a few more to be to 00:52:54.319 --> 00:52:57.319 to to be sold to be picked up. 00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.095 So, I encourage people to go out and and 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.416 pick up this li that limited edition 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.256 one. And I'd encourage people to to 00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.016 to purchase this one, the Queen one when 00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:08.040 it comes on. It's a great way of of um 00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:11.240 of fundraising for a particular um um 00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:15.656 organization. And in this case, yeah, 00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:18.680 Rise Above does incredible work. Um 00:53:19.839 --> 00:53:22.136 we we did do a a cultural ground for 00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:25.160 Bangor in April 24. And whilst um 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.256 precedents are are not something that 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.055 that are created by by decisions of 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.535 council um it it is a a very worthwhile 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.456 project and I would I strongly 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:37.416 support it. 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:38.856 Thanks Council President. Councelor 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.496 Schwocket. 00:53:41.520 --> 00:53:43.416 Yeah, just very briefly I I do like 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.176 grants like this where they take our 00:53:45.200 --> 00:53:47.016 money and essentially make it um more 00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:49.335 valuable for somebody else. So it's a 00:53:49.359 --> 00:53:50.776 good cause. Thank you. 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.376 Thank you councelor. Further discussion. 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.535 Councelor Wilson. Question for you, M. 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:55.656 Is it going to have streets from Gerald 00:53:55.680 --> 00:53:58.055 Bombber in it or is it just Queen? 00:53:58.079 --> 00:53:59.176 It's Queen, mate. 00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:00.936 Oh, okay. I'll have to do a Gerald one 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.055 later then. No worries. 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.776 I I don't know the answer. I'm going to 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.095 assume it includes all of Queen Venong 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.095 and Jerry Bombra. Councelor Wilson. Is 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:10.456 there any further discussion? If not, 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:12.535 we'll put the motion. All those in favor 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.559 that is unanimous and carried. 8.8 is 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.416 the license agreement Bradwood and 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.376 Villages Tourism Inc. 2026 to 2031. Move 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:21.896 councelor Waterhouse and second 00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.656 councelor Preston. Council Waterhouse. 00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:25.095 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a highly 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.016 valued organization in the the 00:54:27.040 --> 00:54:29.896 Bradwood district and a volunteer 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.920 base. Again, of course, quite arguably 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.456 doing our job for us. In fact, in many 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.480 ways, um but council supports the 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.000 Brawood Villages tourism with lots 00:54:43.200 --> 00:54:45.575 and lots of assistance over the years. 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.176 Um they've been there for a long time 00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:48.376 and it's a it's a good little 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.055 organization. I highly recommend it to 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.136 the council. Thank you, councelor 00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:54.136 Waterhouse. Is there further discussion? 00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:56.055 Councelor Willis. 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.696 thank you. I think this little 00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:01.656 outfit which does an amazing job on 00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:04.535 the you know on a shoestring gives paid 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.559 to that what seems to be um modern 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.095 wisdom that visitor information centers 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.095 are paray because everyone can Google 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.119 what they want and um I think it does an 00:55:16.319 --> 00:55:19.319 excellent job. I think the accessibility 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.599 of the the center is not ideal. and 00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:26.535 it would be good if we could actually 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.176 find them a better location. U but yeah, 00:55:29.200 --> 00:55:30.936 I think it's it does a really important 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.016 job and it's integral to that town and 00:55:33.040 --> 00:55:35.095 its um visitor offering. 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:36.616 Thank you councelor. There's nothing 00:55:36.640 --> 00:55:38.136 further. We'll put the motion. All in 00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:41.160 favor unanimous and carried. 8.9 is the 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:43.736 women's change rooms at freebody overall 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.896 additional funding. Have a move. 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.016 Councelor Wilson. Second. Councelor 00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:50.040 Taskski. Councelor Wilson. , no. Thank 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.216 you, Mayor. If you read the paper, it 00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:54.616 articulates what this funding is for. 00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:56.616 , it just finishes off the final 00:55:56.640 --> 00:55:59.640 piece. Um, , in a substantial , 00:56:00.720 --> 00:56:03.720 project as you can see. , so , and 00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.416 thank you once again. I always like to 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:06.775 thank the state and federal governments 00:56:06.799 --> 00:56:08.055 for their contributions and obviously 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:09.575 and the rateayers of Queen for their 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:10.535 contribution they're going to be making 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:11.496 as well. Thank you. 00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:12.696 Thank you, Councelor Wilson. Councelor 00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:14.136 Tascosi. You know, is there further 00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:15.896 discussion? There is. Councelor Willis 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:17.496 then councelor Gandhi. Councelor Willis. 00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:19.416 , thank you. Can I thank the staff for 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.216 answering my questions about why we've 00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:25.240 got this um second funding top up for 00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:28.376 this project. I have a subsequent 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.400 question which is why why were the 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.000 developer contribution fees 00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.216 not included in the original 00:56:38.240 --> 00:56:40.535 budget? I would have thought given the 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.256 issues that we've had with 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.055 projects in the last few years that 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:49.079 people are working to a template or some 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.976 kind of a guide for budgeting capital 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.696 works projects. So because this is an 00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:56.856 unwelcome surprise when other things are 00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.176 costing so much anyway and how can we 00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:02.200 ensure that there isn't u a repeat of 00:57:03.200 --> 00:57:06.200 this sort of um sum that's overlooked in 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:08.936 budgeting. 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:10.616 Miss Richards 00:57:10.640 --> 00:57:12.055 through you Mr. Mayor. Thank you for 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.456 your question. Um it's really a matter 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.480 of um inexperience of staff. Many of the 00:57:17.680 --> 00:57:19.976 urban landscapes projects have been done 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.000 either under a SEP or through an RAF or 00:57:23.200 --> 00:57:26.055 have been minor additions to capital 00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.856 works that already exists. So staff were 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.176 unaware at the time that this would 00:57:31.200 --> 00:57:34.200 trigger a section 64 um commitment. Um 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.055 but we will be working to a template 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.079 from now on now that we're aware. 00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:43.176 Thank you, 00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:45.496 Councelor Grundy. 00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:47.095 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. That was one of my 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.856 questions. The other was, can someone 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:51.256 explain to me 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.280 how does women's change rooms blow 00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:57.720 out to over $3 million to to build? And 00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.736 that's a serious question. I'm just 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.616 wondering what makes it so special. By 00:58:02.640 --> 00:58:03.976 the end of this, it'll be over $3 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.000 million. 00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.496 Are you able to attempt to address the 00:58:09.520 --> 00:58:11.335 query, Miss Richards? 00:58:11.359 --> 00:58:13.016 through you, Mr. Mayor. I can only 00:58:13.040 --> 00:58:15.335 say it's increasing construction costs. 00:58:15.359 --> 00:58:18.359 The facility is modern. It's large. It 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.095 has a number of amenities. It has 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:24.119 storage. Um, and the blowout was 00:58:24.640 --> 00:58:27.256 unpredicted. Just construction costs 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.055 right across the board are rising. 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.656 Is there further discussion on the item? 00:58:31.680 --> 00:58:33.416 Councelor Preston. 00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.016 A quick question. Anybody approached 00:58:35.040 --> 00:58:37.815 Essential Energy about um perhaps 00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:39.416 contributing to the cost of the 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:41.256 connection electric? 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:42.535 , Miss Richards. 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.456 , through you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, we have 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:45.815 had conversations with the central 00:58:45.839 --> 00:58:47.656 energy. They're not interested in 00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:49.815 kicking in. 00:58:49.839 --> 00:58:51.815 Okay. Is there further discussion? We'll 00:58:51.839 --> 00:58:54.535 put the motion. All those in favor? 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:57.559 That's unanimous. Thank you. Councilors 00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.760 8.10 place naming policy. We have a 00:59:00.799 --> 00:59:02.456 move. Councelor Grundy, second councelor 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.480 Waterhouse. Councelor Grundy. 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.736 Oh, reserve. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.760 Waterhouse. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Um I 00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:13.656 think um I was sort of one of a couple 00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:15.176 of people that that pushed for this 00:59:15.200 --> 00:59:17.736 because we started naming things and we 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:18.936 sort of realized that we didn't really 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.960 have a a strate strategic policy 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:25.400 about it. Um and I take note that the 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.696 staff have very wisely um taken on board 00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:30.456 the geographic names board 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.456 information as well which I was 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:34.216 completely unaware of that it even 00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:36.616 existed. Um, and I thank the staff for 00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:39.416 for being thorough and and bringing 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:40.856 that on board. It's a very 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:42.775 straightforward policy and it just gives 00:59:42.799 --> 00:59:44.775 us guidance on how we should go about 00:59:44.799 --> 00:59:46.376 naming things. It's very 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.936 straightforward. There's no tricks. Um, 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.896 and I recommend it. 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:53.575 Thank you. Is there further discussion? 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.656 We'll put the motion. All those in favor 00:59:55.680 --> 00:59:57.736 that's unanimous and carried. We're now 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.055 on to items for information. And so 9.1 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:01.496 is the further deed of variation of 01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:03.976 mouong sports and recreation club and 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.216 gong township pl. I'm happy to move from 01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:07.815 the chair. Second to councelor Wilson. 01:00:07.839 --> 01:00:10.136 Is any discussion? We'll put the motion 01:00:10.160 --> 01:00:13.160 all in favor. That's unanimous. 9.2 the 01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:14.775 resolution action sheet. I'm happy to 01:00:14.799 --> 01:00:16.616 move. And second council Broadbent. Is 01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:19.176 there discussion? Councelor Grundy. 01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:22.200 Yes, Mr. Mayor. Um, I would like to 01:00:22.799 --> 01:00:25.799 raise I guess interest attention to 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.960 the item traffic safety 01:00:30.240 --> 01:00:33.240 in Carabar School precinct that is still 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.280 underway and um we're now approaching 12 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.119 months since my original motion for um 01:00:41.359 --> 01:00:44.359 for this for this item. And um I will 01:00:45.200 --> 01:00:47.656 also 01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:50.680 put that um that motion 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.575 or the resolution that was the 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:55.335 response 01:00:55.359 --> 01:00:57.656 did include the word urgent several 01:00:57.680 --> 01:01:00.680 times and we're still underway with um 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.920 no action. There's no change. Um parents 01:01:06.720 --> 01:01:08.616 are still very upset that there's no 01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:11.095 change. In the in interim we seem to 01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:14.119 have had um some improvement around one 01:01:15.680 --> 01:01:18.376 or other school at Gerabombra 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.400 um but nothing at Carib. So I would like 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.480 to ask that this be made a priority that 01:01:25.839 --> 01:01:27.896 we give something to the community as 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.696 far as when this will be finished and 01:01:30.720 --> 01:01:32.535 when they will see some action on the 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:34.775 ground because I've I've also been 01:01:34.799 --> 01:01:37.416 informed that their traffic management 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.936 officer 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.960 um whom would be called the lollipop 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.256 person in general terms no longer is 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.815 funded there. Now, I've yet to confirm 01:01:47.839 --> 01:01:49.896 that, but I understand they don't have 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:51.736 that person anymore. So, that is 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.760 increasing the risk to to students. So, 01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.016 and and particularly children. So, if we 01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:58.775 could make this a priority and get some 01:01:58.799 --> 01:02:01.496 action, that would be most appreciated. 01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:03.256 Are we able to get a response from staff 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:04.936 at all on that? I know we did give it 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:06.295 get an update, I think, in the recent 01:02:06.319 --> 01:02:09.319 council's catch on how it was going, but 01:02:09.680 --> 01:02:11.575 does staff have anything in front of 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:12.616 them? Were they able to provide an 01:02:12.640 --> 01:02:15.095 update on progress at least 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.335 through Miss May? I can only that 01:02:17.359 --> 01:02:19.736 there is um some recommendations going 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.376 to the next local traffic forum on the 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.176 proposed um responses. 01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:27.256 This is an area where it's in the 01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:28.856 department of education where there are 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:31.815 local traffic safety education officers 01:02:31.839 --> 01:02:33.896 with department of education and trans 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:36.136 and transport for New South Wales. I 01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:38.295 have one road safety officer here who's 01:02:38.319 --> 01:02:40.775 dealing with a number of matters in um 01:02:40.799 --> 01:02:43.799 the queen paling regional council. Um 01:02:44.240 --> 01:02:45.736 there has been a number of other school 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.376 issues that we've been addressing. Um 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:49.815 and there has been progress. There was 01:02:49.839 --> 01:02:51.656 an update provided to council on this 01:02:51.680 --> 01:02:53.976 matter and I forget but there was a 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:55.416 number of months ago and also in the 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:57.815 council catch. It has been progressing. 01:02:57.839 --> 01:03:00.839 Um and the funding of the um 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.775 person who manages the pedestrian 01:03:04.799 --> 01:03:06.136 crossing for school children. That's 01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:08.936 that's a department of education matter. 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:11.416 Okay. And as as a Carib High School 01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:13.896 parent now, I can provide updates on a 01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:15.496 daily basis if we actually see things 01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:17.575 implemented. There are certainly issues 01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:19.095 there, but they do have a lollipop 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.015 person I know on Alenar Road, but I'm 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:22.456 not sure if there's still one on Cameron 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:24.936 Road or not. Um, but yes, we look 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:26.616 forward to seeing progress there. Is 01:03:26.640 --> 01:03:27.976 there any further discussion on that 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.295 one? If not, we'll put the motion. All 01:03:30.319 --> 01:03:32.055 those in favor, that's unanimous. And 01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.856 then 9.3 is the extreme weather and 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.416 emergency preparedness. And I'm happy to 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:38.856 move from the chair seconded council 01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.535 Broadbent. Is there discussion? 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:42.136 Councelor Willis. 01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:44.535 thank you. Can I ask staff for the 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.559 thorough report that's been provided? Um 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.856 2526 summer was exceptional as a report 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.176 by the climate council reveals. While 01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:56.055 2025 started and ended in a leninia, 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.136 which usually brings a cooling effect, 01:03:58.160 --> 01:04:00.136 the country experienced its fourth 01:04:00.160 --> 01:04:02.535 hottest year with record-breaking 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:04.856 temperatures in most states, floods and 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.880 storms, all within the space of weeks. 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.095 450 homes and more than 1,000 other 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:12.936 structures were lost to bush fires in 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.960 Victoria. 2025 was also the globe's 01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.480 third hottest year on record. and 2015 01:04:20.160 --> 01:04:23.160 to 25 were the hottest 11 years recorded 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:25.896 according to the World Meteorological 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.535 Organization. So, it's imperative that 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.936 we take the risks arising from extreme 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.176 heat seriously. 01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:35.335 , I was surprised to read in this 01:04:35.359 --> 01:04:37.656 report to council how many people used 01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:40.295 the Queen Library in early January. 01:04:40.319 --> 01:04:43.319 There were 803 users over 3 days and 01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:47.559 1733 users over 5 days in late January 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.015 when we had another heatwave. There were 01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.039 also 493 people using the library in 01:04:54.160 --> 01:04:57.160 Braidwood over that same 5-day period in 01:04:57.200 --> 01:04:58.936 late January. 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.775 If we have secure housing and the 01:05:00.799 --> 01:05:02.775 wherewithal to heat and cool it, it's 01:05:02.799 --> 01:05:04.856 easy to forget that not everyone shares 01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:06.775 those conditions. Increasing 01:05:06.799 --> 01:05:08.856 homelessness and rising costs of 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.095 utilities mean that extreme heat 01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.736 presents a danger to more people. The 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:15.416 Australian government has made clear 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.496 that local councils will be expected to 01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:19.496 do more in dealing with climate change 01:05:19.520 --> 01:05:21.095 impacts. 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.256 This report highlights areas for further 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.815 development. For example, relying 01:05:25.839 --> 01:05:27.815 primarily on online information 01:05:27.839 --> 01:05:29.896 resources will miss possibly the most 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.216 vulnerable members of our community. Now 01:05:32.240 --> 01:05:35.176 that needs attention as this work is 01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:37.575 further developed. I think this needs to 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.815 be supplemented by outreach and things 01:05:39.839 --> 01:05:42.216 like more visible warnings and advice. 01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:44.376 We use digital road signage. We're using 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.335 it now to give people direction 01:05:47.359 --> 01:05:49.095 about where to drive and where not to 01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:51.176 drive. Those sorts of things in high 01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:54.136 visibility places. There's probably the 01:05:54.160 --> 01:05:57.015 billboard out the front. Other places 01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.256 where there is high visibility. So 01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.280 because not everyone is online and we 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.335 need to bear that in mind, council is 01:06:05.359 --> 01:06:07.256 reviewing the community climate action 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.656 plan. It's imperative that the revised 01:06:09.680 --> 01:06:12.295 plan recognize the need for adaptation 01:06:12.319 --> 01:06:14.456 and incorporate actions that will help 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.176 people stay safe in extreme weather and 01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:20.055 emergencies. An El Nino is expected this 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:22.295 year. So we could be in for another very 01:06:22.319 --> 01:06:25.319 hot summer. and can I also add could 01:06:26.160 --> 01:06:28.696 we please have the workshop which is 01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:31.416 mentioned in the report before council 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.440 gets to reviewing its before council 01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:37.896 gets to doing its midterm review of the 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.896 climate action plans. I think it's very 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.295 important that councilors understand the 01:06:42.319 --> 01:06:45.319 operating context um particularly as 01:06:45.359 --> 01:06:47.896 we look forward in developing in 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.920 revising those action plans. Thank you. 01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:53.736 Is there a further discussion? Put the 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:55.976 motion. All in favor, unanimous and 01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.095 carried. Now on to reports of 01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.656 committees. 10.1 is the sports council 01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:01.015 minutes. I'm happy to move from the 01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:02.535 chair. Second to councelor Broadbent. Is 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:04.616 any discussion? Put the motion. All in 01:07:04.640 --> 01:07:06.936 favor. That's unanimous. 10.2 is the 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.095 heritage advisory committee minutes 19th 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.416 of March. It's moved by councelor Willis 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:12.775 and second to councelor Waterhouse. Is 01:07:12.799 --> 01:07:15.799 there discussion? Councelor Willis. No 01:07:15.839 --> 01:07:17.176 discussion. We'll put the motion. All in 01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:19.575 favor? Unanimous and carried. And 10.3 01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:21.896 is a sustainability. Let's try that 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.136 again. Sustainability and climate change 01:07:24.160 --> 01:07:26.136 committee minutes 26th of March 2026. 01:07:26.160 --> 01:07:27.416 That's moved by councelor Wilson. 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.376 Seconded councelor Willis. You'd like to 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.176 discuss councelor Wilson. 01:07:33.200 --> 01:07:35.736 yes. It touches on the cat 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.535 containment area. I I've understand that 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:40.775 council may move an amendment which I 01:07:40.799 --> 01:07:42.295 could see as a friendly amendment and 01:07:42.319 --> 01:07:44.456 would still with the recommendation as 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.295 is. Then 01:07:46.319 --> 01:07:47.496 council will you want to move an 01:07:47.520 --> 01:07:50.136 amendment? , I can I was going to move 01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:52.616 an alternative recommendation, but I got 01:07:52.640 --> 01:07:55.640 beaten to the draw. 01:07:57.520 --> 01:07:58.616 Yeah, that's why I was trying to stop 01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:00.055 the second motion. 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.616 I want I can withdraw my seconding of 01:08:02.640 --> 01:08:03.335 the motion. 01:08:03.359 --> 01:08:05.015 You want to withdraw your motion and let 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:06.616 councelor Willis move some an 01:08:06.640 --> 01:08:07.656 alternative? 01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:09.015 Yep, we can just move do that. 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:10.535 Okay, let's withdraw that from the 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.815 minutes. Councelor Willis, you're going 01:08:11.839 --> 01:08:14.055 to be moving a motion. 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:15.976 I will. Thank you. It's with the chair 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.000 and it is on the screen. that 01:08:20.080 --> 01:08:21.976 council one notes the minutes of the 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.576 sustainability and climate change 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.600 committee held on 26th March 2026. Two 01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.175 amend the Queen and Palarang Regional 01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:31.576 Council CAT containment policy to 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.896 include Greenley as it is in the 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:35.896 boundaries of Queenian City and given 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.896 its high biodiversity values that need 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:39.655 to be protected through the application 01:08:39.679 --> 01:08:42.376 of the policy. Three, place the amended 01:08:42.400 --> 01:08:44.376 policy on public exhibition for a period 01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:47.255 of 28 days. And four, if no submissions 01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:50.279 are received, adopt the revised policy. 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.695 Second, councelor Grundy. Councelor will 01:08:52.719 --> 01:08:53.416 no 01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:56.056 asking a question. Um, this is a item 01:08:56.080 --> 01:08:59.080 for information. I um have tried to put 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.295 amendments on previous items for 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.295 information and have been directly told 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.376 by the general manager I could do that. 01:09:06.400 --> 01:09:07.735 This is not an item of information. This 01:09:07.759 --> 01:09:10.456 is a report of committee. Have a second 01:09:10.480 --> 01:09:13.480 for council Wilson. Councelor Willis. 01:09:14.080 --> 01:09:17.080 thank you. So point two in the 01:09:18.719 --> 01:09:21.416 recommendation picks up the 01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:23.815 recommendation from the committee 01:09:23.839 --> 01:09:26.056 which brought this matter to 01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:27.896 council's attention. So the committee 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.056 has recommended Greenly be added to the 01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:32.295 cat containment policy because it was 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.319 left out when council adopted the policy 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.159 um some months ago. I also wanted to 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:41.735 make sure if councilors haven't had a 01:09:41.759 --> 01:09:43.335 chance to read it to see that Queen and 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.896 Landare has written a letter in support. 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.295 It's been submitted to the public forum. 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.695 Um the amendment is supported by both 01:09:50.719 --> 01:09:53.719 those groups. the original draft 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.536 containment policy captured all parts of 01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.256 the LGA but council resolved to restrict 01:09:59.280 --> 01:10:02.135 the policy to urban areas of Queenben, 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.159 Bangor and Bradwood. It also applies to 01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:07.416 Gong, Elm Grove, Jumping Creek, 01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:09.496 Braidwood Ridge, South Jura Bombra and 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:12.215 all future green field developments. 01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:15.096 the purpose the objectives of the 01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:17.016 policy are to provide protection to 01:10:17.040 --> 01:10:19.655 native wildlife in close proximity to 01:10:19.679 --> 01:10:22.536 the identified cat containment areas by 01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:24.296 restricting the movement of domestic 01:10:24.320 --> 01:10:26.776 cats and to apply restrictions to 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.616 domestic cats in the local government 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:30.936 area to reduce customer complaints to 01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.960 council regarding roaming cats. Greenly 01:10:34.080 --> 01:10:35.896 is on the eastern escarment that 01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:37.976 contains forest and woodlands in high to 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.296 moderate condition. It provides habitat 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:42.296 for dozens of native plants and animal 01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:45.016 species. This includes breeding birds 01:10:45.040 --> 01:10:47.016 whose young spend time on the ground 01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:49.256 shortly after fledging and this is 01:10:49.280 --> 01:10:52.280 exposes them to risk of predation. Green 01:10:52.320 --> 01:10:54.456 less also part of an east west corridor 01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:56.695 used by wildlife. Koalas are known to 01:10:56.719 --> 01:10:58.856 move through the corridor. Green Le 01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:01.256 joins Jumping Creek Estate, which is 01:11:01.280 --> 01:11:03.816 covered by the policy, and other urban 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:05.496 areas of Queen Beian City to which the 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:08.215 cat containment policy applies. It makes 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.536 no sense that the policy does not extend 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:12.856 to Greenley simply because it is zoned 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.736 as a rural area. Allowing cats to roam 01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.576 beyond private property boundaries in 01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:19.976 Greenley undermines the efforts of other 01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.416 residents who are managing their 01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:22.856 properties for biodiversity 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.655 conservation, who keep cats indoors, who 01:11:25.679 --> 01:11:28.536 have no cats. Allowing this anomaly to 01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:31.096 continue sends a message that this area 01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:33.576 of high biodiversity value isn't 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.600 important. It also undermines efforts by 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.016 council and residents to protect our 01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:41.496 environment and to keep cats healthy by 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.576 preventing them from roaming. To 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.816 maximize the benefits of this policy to 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.135 wildlife and to the health of cats, this 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.616 policy should apply to Greenley. 01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:52.056 Thank you, Council Willis. Councelor 01:11:52.080 --> 01:11:53.736 Wilson. 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.376 thank you, Mayor. happy to support 01:11:56.400 --> 01:11:58.135 this trying to do a different way but 01:11:58.159 --> 01:11:59.655 we got there in the end. this 01:11:59.679 --> 01:12:01.736 particular recommendation that's in 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.135 front of us. just to give a bit of 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:05.816 context, I was the council that moved 01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:08.056 that we do cat containment for urban 01:12:08.080 --> 01:12:10.456 areas. We got the support of council 01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:11.976 when we did that because we thought we 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:13.816 don't want to try and ban a farm cat 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.416 roaming around grabbing some mice, but 01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:17.736 we do want to make sure in our high 01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:20.296 value areas that cats aren't roaming 01:12:20.320 --> 01:12:22.536 around. and therefore I thank the 01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.376 committee for their work. I've read the 01:12:24.400 --> 01:12:27.016 land care correspondence and I think 01:12:27.040 --> 01:12:28.695 they make a very sound case that 01:12:28.719 --> 01:12:30.456 Greenley should be included in the cat 01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:32.776 containment area. for those listening 01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.800 along, I think it's 1 January 2027. So 01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:38.376 at the director for when cat 01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:40.456 containment applies to all cats across 01:12:40.480 --> 01:12:42.695 all our urban areas and hopefully in 01:12:42.719 --> 01:12:45.175 the Greenly area as well. we'd also 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:46.856 just put a notice that I think we do 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:49.096 need to lift our correspondence to 01:12:49.120 --> 01:12:51.336 people around what cat containment is. 01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:52.695 you know, you'd basically do this thing 01:12:52.719 --> 01:12:54.135 called dog containment. You can't leave 01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:56.456 your can't leave your yard. so it 01:12:56.480 --> 01:12:57.816 was, you know, same sort of thing with 01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.840 cats. and I think January 27, it does 01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:02.695 seem like a long way away to be honest, 01:13:02.719 --> 01:13:04.056 but we wanted to give a lot of lead time 01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:05.736 to make sure people had time to make 01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:08.695 adjustments. I know newborn cats are 01:13:08.719 --> 01:13:10.376 covered, but older cats had to have 01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:13.016 time. So we need we've got time, but we 01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:14.135 do need to communicate with the 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.056 community and update our some of our 01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:17.416 material. Thank you. 01:13:17.440 --> 01:13:19.896 Thank you, Councelor Broadman. 01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:21.896 Yeah, I I I tend to agree with 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:23.576 everything both both counselors have 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.215 said. Um I personally, I guess 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:27.896 anecdotally, have noticed as I walk my 01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:29.816 dog around Gooong an increase of cats 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:32.776 all around. Previously, um my experience 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.856 was no cats anywhere and you see people 01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:36.695 with their their cataries out the back 01:13:36.719 --> 01:13:39.719 and I thought it was pretty cool. Um one 01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:41.736 I guess one question through through 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:43.976 you, Mr. Mayor, um just for staff in 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.215 terms of obviously Greenly is a is a 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:49.239 challenging area to get around. um we 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.536 have not that many rangers so it just be 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:53.496 good to just get a bit of an 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:55.416 understanding of what impact this is 01:13:55.440 --> 01:13:57.256 going to have on the ranger resourcing 01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:00.280 and loading if if that makes sense 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:03.976 through you Mr. Mayor, in relation to 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:05.576 cat containment, it's really an 01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.576 education and behavioral change policy 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.600 that we're promoting and hoping to, I 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:12.536 suppose, and encourage and enable 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:15.560 residents to comply in terms of um um 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.096 catching cats and getting out there with 01:14:19.120 --> 01:14:20.936 our ranges and catching cats that have 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:23.496 gone off property. Um that's really not 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.520 what our resource focus has been on. Um 01:14:27.280 --> 01:14:30.280 so, is it going to have a big um ranger 01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:34.040 impact? I' I'd yet to see that actually 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.695 um play out for us with respect to cat 01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:38.056 containment. 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:40.536 Yeah, look, I I guess um obviously I'll 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:41.896 support this motion, but I do think it's 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:43.256 going to be interesting once this is 01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:45.016 really enforced and we've got a bit of a 01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:47.096 picture on how compliant the community 01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:49.576 is as to what mechanisms we can use cuz 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:51.896 I think obviously we can't have 01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:54.135 Ranger going after the Smurfs. We don't 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.159 have the the enough rangers. Um 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.760 yeah, thanks there with me. Um but yeah, 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.536 it's a it's a challenge. Yeah, I think 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:03.976 it's a challenge and look forward to 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.655 seeing how it goes in the future. 01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:08.456 Thank you. Is there further discussion? 01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:09.976 If not, we'll put the motion. All those 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.000 in favor that is unanimous and carried. 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.496 The next item on to notice of motions. 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.520 So 11.1 is a notice of motion regarding 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:20.536 the South Jer Bombber Innovation 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.096 Precinct and that's councelor Willis 01:15:23.120 --> 01:15:25.736 moving as per the business paper. 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:26.376 Yes. 01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:29.400 Okay. And do we have a second? 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:31.896 Councelor Grundy. Councelor Willis. 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:33.896 Thank you, Councelor Grundy. So, this is 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.920 a bit odd because I put this notice 01:15:37.440 --> 01:15:39.576 of motion forward because we had been 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:41.736 told at the 17th December council 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.760 meeting that this report that I had 01:15:45.120 --> 01:15:47.655 requested would be coming to council 01:15:47.679 --> 01:15:50.679 in January and we haven't got it. 01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:54.215 and I think it's very important to be 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:56.456 to be clear about what happened and 01:15:56.480 --> 01:15:59.480 what the what arises from it. and 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.456 as far as I can tell, but this is 01:16:02.480 --> 01:16:04.456 actually a question. 01:16:04.480 --> 01:16:07.480 Will the 2000 $2 million funding gap be 01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:10.936 covered? How will it be covered in the 01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:12.616 event of the treasurer declining 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.616 council's request? My understanding is 01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:16.215 it will have to come from the general 01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:18.616 fund. 01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:21.016 Is that Miss Monahan? through you, 01:16:21.040 --> 01:16:23.256 Mayor. There was a report put to council 01:16:23.280 --> 01:16:24.936 that recommended funding sources 01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.496 including development contributions and 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.520 the um water and sewer funds were 01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.376 appropriate, infrastructure have been 01:16:32.400 --> 01:16:34.936 constructed. Council has deferred that 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:36.856 report and therefore the resolution of 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.880 how that project be funded until um the 01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:42.376 correspondence is received back from the 01:16:42.400 --> 01:16:43.576 treasurer. 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.256 Thank you. Have we put an end date on 01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:47.496 that? because sometimes ministers take a 01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:49.416 long time to respond like is this going 01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:51.175 to be wrapped up for this financial 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:51.816 year? 01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:53.175 I'm going to take that one. Council's 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:54.776 mind seems we're going to get a letter 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:56.776 back from the treasurer very soon and 01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:58.616 no, we can't put an end date on 01:16:58.640 --> 01:16:59.816 demanding the treasure of New South 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.456 Wales reply in a timely fashion to the 01:17:02.480 --> 01:17:04.536 letter that we've sent him. 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.560 Thank you. Um, so the items that have 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:09.496 been requested in this notice of motion 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:11.655 have been provided. However, I'm still 01:17:11.679 --> 01:17:14.215 going to move that we adopt it because 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.239 it seems odd not to. Um, I think it's 01:17:17.360 --> 01:17:20.056 very we keep hearing that lessons 01:17:20.080 --> 01:17:22.296 have been learned when grant funding 01:17:22.320 --> 01:17:25.320 projects um haven't gone to plan, but 01:17:25.679 --> 01:17:28.056 they keep hap we keep getting problems. 01:17:28.080 --> 01:17:31.080 So, I'm hoping that the new 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.456 arrangements which council agreed to on 01:17:34.480 --> 01:17:37.480 the the back of Eric's recommendations 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.096 will actually fix some of these 01:17:39.120 --> 01:17:40.456 problems. they were to do with major 01:17:40.480 --> 01:17:41.976 projects. 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.000 Um, but we do need to do better at our 01:17:45.280 --> 01:17:47.256 grant administration. 01:17:47.280 --> 01:17:49.896 Um, we've seen the cost pressures 01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:52.296 tonight. There have been three requests 01:17:52.320 --> 01:17:55.320 for funding. Um, 01:17:55.440 --> 01:17:58.215 that is where projects have gone over 01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:00.456 budget, but not because anyone's, you 01:18:00.480 --> 01:18:02.776 know, , 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.016 done something that they shouldn't have, 01:18:05.040 --> 01:18:07.655 but because costs keep rising. So we we 01:18:07.679 --> 01:18:09.496 can't afford 01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.576 not to get our grant funding projects 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.896 right. We can't afford to be in another 01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.695 situation where we went to find half a 01:18:16.719 --> 01:18:18.936 million dollars Abbyfield grant and it 01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:21.655 had been spent on other project 01:18:21.679 --> 01:18:24.679 overspends. We really do need to I 01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:27.416 think get a better handle on how we're 01:18:27.440 --> 01:18:29.096 managing our grants. We're going to have 01:18:29.120 --> 01:18:31.175 to keep relying on them. That's clear in 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:33.655 the long-term financial plan. if 01:18:33.679 --> 01:18:35.816 we're going to keep building and 01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.655 upgrading facilities. 01:18:37.679 --> 01:18:40.679 Thank you, councelor Grundy. 01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.936 I'll defer. Thank you, 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:44.296 council. I'm going to briefly speak 01:18:44.320 --> 01:18:46.135 against supporting this motion. We've 01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.215 got the information from the in the 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.456 report from staff. We don't need to 01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:52.215 support the notice of motion. As I said, 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.215 we I'm expecting a response from the 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:55.816 treasurer imminently. that will be 01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:57.976 provided to all counselors and likely 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.000 debated at a very re or included in 01:19:01.360 --> 01:19:03.256 the agenda for an upcoming council 01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:04.776 meeting. So, I won't be supporting the 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:06.776 motion. Council Broadman, 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:08.296 I also won't be supporting this 01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:10.456 motion and one of one of the reasons 01:19:10.480 --> 01:19:11.976 for that is I do have the privilege of 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.456 sitting on the ARIC and I am 01:19:14.480 --> 01:19:16.695 witnessing council's improvements as as 01:19:16.719 --> 01:19:19.336 we speak. the the major projects board 01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:22.056 and its existence is evidence of council 01:19:22.080 --> 01:19:24.215 taking or council staff taking steps to 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.936 improve the internal operations. Um 01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:28.695 there has been discussions around grants 01:19:28.719 --> 01:19:30.936 and again I'll put um yet another offer 01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:32.776 out to council that if she has concerns 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:35.175 she's welcome to um raise them with me 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:36.695 for me to discuss with the chair of the 01:19:36.719 --> 01:19:39.016 AIC as I've said in quite a few 01:19:39.040 --> 01:19:40.536 meetings now. Thank you. 01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:41.896 Is there further discussion on the 01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.056 notice of motion? Would you like an 01:19:44.080 --> 01:19:45.896 opportunity to sum up councelor Willis? 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:47.576 Yes, thank you. It's not just a matter 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:49.736 of whether I want a conversation with 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:52.456 councelor Broadbent. this is about 01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:55.256 public transparency and accountability 01:19:55.280 --> 01:19:58.280 and the community that we're working for 01:19:58.480 --> 01:20:00.695 having confidence in how we manage 01:20:00.719 --> 01:20:02.856 money. That's what it's about. 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:05.096 I'll put the motion. All those in favor 01:20:05.120 --> 01:20:07.496 are councilors Grundy, Waterhouse and 01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.016 Willis and against a councilors 01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:10.536 Broadbent, Preston, Schwacker, 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:12.936 Tascowski, Wilson and Winchester declare 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.816 it lost. The next item is 11.2 Two, the 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:17.816 Brier Sherro flood mitigation options 01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:19.736 report moved by councelor Schwikett and 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:21.256 seconded by councelor Broadbent and 01:20:21.280 --> 01:20:22.536 you're moving as per the business paper 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.336 councelor Schwett. 01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:24.056 I am 01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:25.576 okay councelor Schwit. 01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:27.496 Thank you. Yeah, this was um a point I 01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:29.655 raised at the last meeting where the 01:20:29.679 --> 01:20:31.416 traffic committee traffic forum 01:20:31.440 --> 01:20:34.440 committee minutes were presented. Um I 01:20:34.719 --> 01:20:36.616 was going to include this with the 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:39.336 the minutes but but um it was deemed 01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:41.496 that because I was missing a comma in 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:42.695 the minutes that it might have been a 01:20:42.719 --> 01:20:45.256 bit confusing. So for want of a comma. 01:20:45.280 --> 01:20:47.816 Um so anyway this is the the motion. 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:48.856 It was brought up in the traffic 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:50.936 committee um that although we've got 01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:52.695 this lovely sort of concrete bridge 01:20:52.719 --> 01:20:53.816 that's going to fix a lot of the 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.576 flooding issues that sometimes that 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:57.175 river does flood a little bit over to 01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:59.816 the where the entrance bridge is. So 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:01.496 it would be a bit sort of silly having 01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.135 this great big $9 million island during 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:07.159 a a flood. So, it's just a just a um 01:21:07.360 --> 01:21:09.736 asking staff just to give us a a report 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.296 on what flood mitigation further 01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:13.816 flood mitigation we can do to ensure 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.215 that the the investment is actually 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:17.816 sound. Thank you. 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:19.655 Thank you, councelor Schwit. Council not 01:21:19.679 --> 01:21:21.256 is there further discussion on this one 01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:22.936 councilors? If not, I'm going to put the 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:24.776 motion. All those in favor? That's 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.336 unanimous and carried. 11.3 is the 01:21:27.360 --> 01:21:29.096 notice of motion regarding gambling 01:21:29.120 --> 01:21:31.175 advertising reform. So, councilors, I've 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:33.256 declared an interest and I will depart 01:21:33.280 --> 01:21:35.096 the chamber. the general manager will 01:21:35.120 --> 01:21:37.736 help you elect a chair in my absence 01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.760 because the Deputy Mayor is an apology. 01:21:41.440 --> 01:21:44.440 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, councilors, in 01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:48.440 accordance with um clause 6.2 of the 01:21:49.280 --> 01:21:50.856 code of meeting practice, if the Mayor 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:52.936 and the Deputy Mayor are absent, a 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:54.376 counselor elected to chair the meeting 01:21:54.400 --> 01:21:56.536 by the council present presides at a 01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:58.215 meeting of the council. So, for this 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.175 next item, can I um please have a 01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:03.816 counselor elected to chair the meeting? 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.615 So, is there a nomination, please? 01:22:06.639 --> 01:22:07.655 If there's more, I'm sorry. And if 01:22:07.679 --> 01:22:08.856 there's more than one, there'll be a 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:09.496 vote. 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:10.936 Yeah, I'll just nominate councelor 01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:11.496 Waterhouse. 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:13.175 So, councelor Wilson, you've nominated 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.936 councelor Waterhouse. Is there a 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:16.615 seconder for that? 01:22:16.639 --> 01:22:18.856 Councelor Tassoski 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:20.536 and Council Waterhouse, do you accept 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:21.496 that nomination? 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:22.536 I do. Thank you. 01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:24.456 Is there any other nominations for 01:22:24.480 --> 01:22:27.096 chairing of this particular item? 01:22:27.120 --> 01:22:29.496 No. I'll declare that Council Waterhouse 01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:31.736 be the chair for this next item. Council 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:32.856 Waterhouse, would you like to come up 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.880 and sit up to the chair's chair? 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:42.215 And I'll hand it over to you. 01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:45.239 Thank you, General Manager. Um, we're up 01:22:45.440 --> 01:22:47.816 to item 11.3. 01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.736 Um, Councelor Willis, are you going to 01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:51.416 move the motion as per the business 01:22:51.440 --> 01:22:52.056 paper? 01:22:52.080 --> 01:22:53.655 That's right. 01:22:53.679 --> 01:22:55.816 Would you like to um speak to it? Oh, 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.840 sorry. We need a seconder. 01:23:00.320 --> 01:23:02.215 I'll second it from the chair just cuz I 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.976 want to hear the discussion. 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:07.000 Thank you, Councelor Waterhouse. 01:23:07.120 --> 01:23:09.096 gambling harm affects communities across 01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:11.016 the country. It's linked to mental 01:23:11.040 --> 01:23:13.336 illness, substance abuse, family 01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:15.175 breakdown, and severe financial 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.336 distress. New communications 01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:19.256 technologies have enabled gambling ads 01:23:19.280 --> 01:23:22.280 to pervade modern life. Young people in 01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:23.976 particular are vulnerable, especially 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.896 from the way gambling has been linked to 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:28.536 sport. Deacon University professor of 01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:30.536 public health Samantha Thomas has 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.296 written about her institute's decadel 01:23:32.320 --> 01:23:34.135 long study of gambling attitudes and 01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.456 opinions of children, young people, and 01:23:36.480 --> 01:23:38.856 parents. She wrote, "Children and young 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:40.776 people find it hard to avoid gambling 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:42.536 marketing and promotions in their 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:44.856 everyday environments. As one young 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.936 person told us, it's always there in 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.655 your face." Parents are naturally 01:23:49.679 --> 01:23:51.736 worried and angry about exposure to 01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:53.655 marketing for an addictive, life 01:23:53.679 --> 01:23:55.976 destroying product, which is advertised 01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:57.976 to children every day of the week when 01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.536 they watch their favorite sports stars. 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.215 This is what young people and their 01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:04.296 parents are up against and why we need 01:24:04.320 --> 01:24:06.936 reform. The fact that the Murphy report 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:09.336 had multi-party support demonstrates the 01:24:09.360 --> 01:24:11.416 breadth of political backing for real 01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:13.976 change. Since I lodged this notice of 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:15.736 motion, the prime minister announced 01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:17.736 several measures in response to the 01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.695 Murphy report. But he stopped short of 01:24:20.719 --> 01:24:22.695 supporting all the recommendations which 01:24:22.719 --> 01:24:24.536 included a full ban on gambling 01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:26.776 advertising, a national gambling 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:28.695 regulator, and a ban on offering 01:24:28.719 --> 01:24:31.175 inducements to betting. The prime 01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:33.175 minister said clubs and traditional news 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:34.695 media relied on the revenue from 01:24:34.719 --> 01:24:37.256 gambling advertising. It's the same 01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:39.016 justification that's been used to 01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:41.496 tolerate large numbers of poker machines 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.976 in local clubs and pubs, which in the 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.000 last quarter of 2025 reported a combined 01:24:47.040 --> 01:24:50.040 net profit of $21 million from pokes in 01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:53.416 our local government area alone. That's 01:24:53.440 --> 01:24:56.056 $1.6 million a week. 01:24:56.080 --> 01:24:58.456 The Australian Medical Association said 01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:00.135 the government's changes acknowledged 01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.296 the scale of the problem but fell short 01:25:02.320 --> 01:25:04.296 of protecting Australians from harm 01:25:04.320 --> 01:25:07.175 because partial bans don't work. They 01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:08.936 failed to provide the comprehensive 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:11.175 protections needed to reduce online 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.736 gambling related harm particularly among 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.976 children and young people. Vice 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:18.215 President Associate Professor Julian 01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:20.376 Wrate said, "Children should be able to 01:25:20.400 --> 01:25:22.615 enjoy sport without being targeted by 01:25:22.639 --> 01:25:25.336 gambling companies. Relying on opt- out 01:25:25.360 --> 01:25:27.496 tools or age restriction technologies 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.736 that have already proven ineffective 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.760 will not protect young people." Gambling 01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:35.096 reform advocate Tim Costello described 01:25:35.120 --> 01:25:37.576 the government's changes as timid. He 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.576 noted that European nations had banned 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:41.416 gambling ads and said Australia should 01:25:41.440 --> 01:25:44.440 do the same. 600,000 12 to 17 year olds 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:48.856 gambled illegally on sport in Australia 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.576 last year. It's he noted that's more 01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:53.096 than the number who played basketball 01:25:53.120 --> 01:25:56.120 and soccer combined. Council on behalf 01:25:56.159 --> 01:25:58.135 of our community can support the call 01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:00.376 for real reform on this serious public 01:26:00.400 --> 01:26:02.776 health issue by asking the government to 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:04.615 commit to a full ban on gambling 01:26:04.639 --> 01:26:06.135 advertising and the other 01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:09.159 recommendations of the Murphy report. 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.239 Thanks Willis. Um, I second it. So, I'll 01:26:13.280 --> 01:26:16.280 reserve my um comments. Would anyone 01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:18.856 like to make a comment? 01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:20.296 Councelor Broadbin. 01:26:20.320 --> 01:26:23.016 , look, I I have seen firsthand as a 01:26:23.040 --> 01:26:25.336 as a young person and a young male in 01:26:25.360 --> 01:26:27.336 particular, um, the impacts of gambling 01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:30.215 on my friends and their families. Um and 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.536 unfortunately as a young person going to 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.096 a sport game or watching sport on TV 01:26:35.120 --> 01:26:37.976 nowadays is wholly or not wholly but 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.000 nearly um wholly related to people 01:26:41.040 --> 01:26:42.936 loading up their their favorite sport 01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:45.496 betting app um and watching sport 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.256 through the eyes of betting which is a 01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:50.280 very unfortunate thing. Um that said, 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:53.016 I won't be supporting this motion 01:26:53.040 --> 01:26:55.016 tonight. And the reason my reasoning for 01:26:55.040 --> 01:26:56.695 that is that I don't believe that this 01:26:56.719 --> 01:26:59.719 is the role of council to debate. Um you 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:02.856 won't see me raise a motion of this 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.880 type in my entire time in council. I 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:07.896 think we have a duty to our people on 01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:09.336 what we're debating and what we need to 01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:12.360 resolve here. and we the people of 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:15.576 Queenian and Queenian Palarang more 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:16.776 broadly have already elected their 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.800 representatives to oversee these 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.159 matters. Um and I and I have faith um in 01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:26.615 Chris McBain that she is going to 01:27:26.639 --> 01:27:29.639 pursue that she and I hope she is um on 01:27:29.679 --> 01:27:31.816 behalf of the people of Queen Palarang. 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.456 so I guess yeah that's that's my 01:27:34.480 --> 01:27:36.536 perspective and um but I do thank 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:37.976 council Willis for bringing it forward 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.000 but I won't be supporting it. Yes, 01:27:41.360 --> 01:27:44.360 thanks Councelor Broadbent. Anybody else 01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:49.816 councils? , thank you and 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.056 congratulations councelor Waterhouse. I 01:27:52.080 --> 01:27:53.896 think the first Braidwood councelor 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.296 to sit in the chair for QPRC maybe ever. 01:27:56.320 --> 01:27:59.320 I'm not sure. Um, I won't be supporting 01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:02.135 this notice of motion. I do 01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:03.655 appreciate it is a community 01:28:03.679 --> 01:28:05.655 conversation that's happening and I do 01:28:05.679 --> 01:28:08.536 note also the harm that gambling does 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.536 do. There are people that have make a 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.256 legal punt and they entitled to do 01:28:13.280 --> 01:28:15.896 so. and the secondary part of it 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.296 always is then how do you regulate that 01:28:18.320 --> 01:28:20.135 and how do you ensure that the you know 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.536 those that need to get taxed from that 01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:25.096 are collected and those that have 01:28:25.120 --> 01:28:27.655 harm are protected. just because it's 01:28:27.679 --> 01:28:30.679 been brought up um there was a a 01:28:32.480 --> 01:28:34.936 an announcement pre-Easter on 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.416 gambling reform didn't go all the 01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:39.336 way. there probably is more to do. 01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:42.135 For example, on free bets. It's 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:43.896 pretty pretty outrageous that you can 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.056 get a free bet. Imagine giving out 20 01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:46.936 bucks when you went to the poker 01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:48.296 machines. You just get $20 to go and 01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:51.096 play in the slots. it there is 01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:53.016 probably more to do. But what was 01:28:53.040 --> 01:28:55.496 announced in my personal opinion that 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.896 is is that there was a restriction on 01:28:57.920 --> 01:28:59.896 gambling advertising during the the 01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:02.615 footy. we're banning gambling ads 01:29:02.639 --> 01:29:05.639 on online platforms. we're banning 01:29:06.080 --> 01:29:08.856 the we the federal government I should 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.880 say sorry are banning the logos 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:15.976 on on footy jumpers and that might seem 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:17.175 minor but I actually think it's really 01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:18.536 important because it builds a social 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.536 license that it's normalized it's not a 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:23.560 normalized practice so I do think 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:24.936 there's been some really good progress 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.960 to date there are a myriad of 01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:30.776 parliamentary committee reports that get 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.256 acted on wholly or partly or not at all 01:29:33.280 --> 01:29:35.096 and that is with the parliament of what 01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:36.695 how much they take on each committee 01:29:36.719 --> 01:29:39.256 report. So for those reasons I won't 01:29:39.280 --> 01:29:41.175 be supporting the notice of motion and 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.655 just secondly there is two parts to 01:29:43.679 --> 01:29:45.336 the notice. The one is the receiver 01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:47.416 report and the options. I note the staff 01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:49.976 comment around resourcing as well and 01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.056 I think we do a lot of good weeks 01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:54.056 senior week etc. But I think that's a 01:29:54.080 --> 01:29:55.736 bit of a bridge too far for me too. So I 01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:57.496 won't be supporting the notice of motion 01:29:57.520 --> 01:29:59.655 but thank you for bringing it forward. 01:29:59.679 --> 01:30:02.615 Thanks councelor Wilson. Anyone else? 01:30:02.639 --> 01:30:04.376 Council Preston. 01:30:04.400 --> 01:30:06.856 Yeah, just to build on Councelor 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:09.816 Wilson's comments. Um I I also but 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:11.976 before I do that, I also want to thank 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:13.256 Councelor Wills for bringing this 01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:14.936 forward and for the comments made by 01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:16.536 other councils including councelor 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:19.560 Broadbent about the harms of of 01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:22.456 gambling and and and the insidious 01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:25.416 nature of it. um and a agree 01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:27.976 wholeheartedly with the the intent of 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.000 the um of the the motion to engender 01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:34.135 further action um which certainly needs 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:36.135 to be done. Just building a little bit 01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:39.159 on on councelor Wilson's comments, there 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:40.856 has been the federal government has 01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:42.776 introduced caps on the volume of ads as 01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.655 councelor Wilson pointed out. Um there 01:30:45.679 --> 01:30:48.679 are limits um imposed during children's 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.016 viewing hours which clearly is a step 01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:52.456 in the right direction but not far 01:30:52.480 --> 01:30:55.016 enough. Um and there are restrictions 01:30:55.040 --> 01:30:58.040 around live live sport broadcasts. Um 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.600 there is more to do. Um and the and 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:05.816 the the impression that I gain from 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.536 media reporting and from through our 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:10.456 local member is that there is there the 01:31:10.480 --> 01:31:12.296 there the government is having a very 01:31:12.320 --> 01:31:14.376 serious look at this um and this is an 01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:16.215 issue that that they should take up 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.175 and and and it is their biwick as as 01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:21.496 councelor Broadbent has pointed out it 01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.336 that's an issue for them not for council 01:31:23.360 --> 01:31:26.360 so I won't be supporting it. 01:31:26.719 --> 01:31:28.776 Thank you, Council Preston. Any further 01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.576 takers? 01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:33.736 I'll make a couple of comments if I may. 01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:35.416 Are we right? 01:31:35.440 --> 01:31:37.416 Yes. Council. 01:31:37.440 --> 01:31:39.896 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.376 I just can see it. I know we are 01:31:42.400 --> 01:31:44.056 concerned if you have someone to gamble 01:31:44.080 --> 01:31:47.080 the money as 18 year under the 18 or 14 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.456 whatever it is. But we wasting our time. 01:31:50.480 --> 01:31:53.256 We can't can't do nothing unless the 01:31:53.280 --> 01:31:55.736 federal government decides what they can 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:58.760 do or state government in fact to be a 01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:01.416 third on the bottom. So 01:32:01.440 --> 01:32:03.976 I don't like my son or my kids to be 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.000 again boss and I know I will but we 01:32:08.639 --> 01:32:09.976 can't do nothing until federal 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.856 government steps in and recommended 01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:15.016 something for us or for the whole 01:32:15.040 --> 01:32:17.256 country. 01:32:17.280 --> 01:32:19.256 Thank you. 01:32:19.280 --> 01:32:21.336 Thank you, Councelor Tascowski. I'll 01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:23.256 make a couple of comments as a seconder 01:32:23.280 --> 01:32:26.056 and as the chair, I guess. Um, we write 01:32:26.080 --> 01:32:29.080 to federal and state um government often 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.856 about things that are not necessarily um 01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:35.496 of intimate concern that we deal with 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:38.520 on a daily basis. We do um talk to them 01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.256 and write to them about bigger picture 01:32:41.280 --> 01:32:43.096 matters. And I don't see any problem 01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:45.576 with with um writing a letter to the 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.816 prime minister and the local member 01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.376 about this particular matter. Um and I 01:32:50.400 --> 01:32:51.896 would be happy to receive a report on 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:54.536 the options. Um but if I sit different 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:55.976 to other people then I sit different to 01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:59.000 other people. Um thank you. I shall um 01:33:00.080 --> 01:33:03.080 ask for um councelor Wils to um speak 01:33:03.120 --> 01:33:04.695 in reply. 01:33:04.719 --> 01:33:07.256 Thank you. Gambleaware is a free 01:33:07.280 --> 01:33:09.336 service provided by the New South Wales 01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:12.360 government. it held a workshop for 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:16.456 young people, parents and carers in 01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:19.480 December last year with Northern Beaches 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:21.655 Council which was very wellreceived. 01:33:21.679 --> 01:33:23.816 That's the sort of activity that I had 01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:26.456 in mind. Um that one that wouldn't cost 01:33:26.480 --> 01:33:29.480 council terribly much at all. Just to 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:32.695 the other points, a number of councilors 01:33:32.719 --> 01:33:34.776 have said there's a problem and more 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:36.856 needs to be done. Well, this is your 01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.880 opportunity to tell the government that 01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:42.376 thanks for the small change, but it's 01:33:42.400 --> 01:33:44.936 not nearly enough. So, I don't 01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:47.960 understand why you can't support this 01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:50.776 motion if that's what you honestly 01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:53.336 believe that more change is needed. 01:33:53.360 --> 01:33:55.576 Let's remember it's only the efforts, 01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:58.600 the voices and the hard work of people 01:33:58.719 --> 01:34:00.695 over decades. Do you remember when the 01:34:00.719 --> 01:34:03.655 first no pokes campaign started in 01:34:03.679 --> 01:34:06.679 the 80s? I think it was in Victoria. Tim 01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:09.175 Castello was there for that. And it's 01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.496 only the work of people in the community 01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.416 that have put the pressure on the 01:34:13.440 --> 01:34:15.016 government to do the little that it's 01:34:15.040 --> 01:34:18.040 done. Adding our voice to those who say 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.936 thanks, but it's not nearly enough is 01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:23.960 the best way that we can help push this 01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.056 along and get the changes that are 01:34:26.080 --> 01:34:28.615 actually needed. 01:34:28.639 --> 01:34:30.215 Thank you, Councelor Willis. I'll put 01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:31.896 the motion. All those in favor of this 01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.920 motion, that's Willis and Waterhouse and 01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:37.736 those against, that's councelor 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:39.816 Broadbent, councelor Grundy, councelor 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:41.576 Preston, councelor Schwiker, councelor 01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.056 Tescowski and councelor Wilson. I 01:34:44.080 --> 01:34:46.215 declare it lost. 01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:49.239 Um, do we send for the the boss? 01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:52.695 Thank you, Council Waterhouse. Um, here 01:34:52.719 --> 01:34:55.719 is the Mayor. 01:34:56.960 --> 01:34:58.536 How did he go? 01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:01.560 Really good. surprisingly good. 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:12.856 Thank you, Council Waterhouse. Okay. The 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:15.880 next item is 12.1 delegates report CRJO 01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:18.536 board meeting 6th of March 2026. I'm 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:20.456 happy to move from the chair. Have a 01:35:20.480 --> 01:35:22.056 second. Councelor Preston, is there any 01:35:22.080 --> 01:35:24.135 discussion on the report? If not, we'll 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:25.655 put that motion all in favor. That's 01:35:25.679 --> 01:35:28.056 unanimous and carried. We're on to 13.1 01:35:28.080 --> 01:35:30.456 which is councelor questions memorandum 01:35:30.480 --> 01:35:32.376 of understanding QPRC homes New South 01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:34.376 Wales TA New South Wales. I'm happy to 01:35:34.400 --> 01:35:35.896 move from the chair second to councelor 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:37.896 Willis. Is there discussion on this 01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:39.816 item? Councelor Willis. 01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:42.840 yes, I just wanted to say that it's 01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:45.336 very disappointing that Homes New 01:35:45.360 --> 01:35:47.576 South Wales has not kept council 01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:49.416 informed about the progress with 01:35:49.440 --> 01:35:51.416 implementing this memorandum of 01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:53.896 understanding. Council is a party to 01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:56.376 this agreement and we should be told 01:35:56.400 --> 01:35:59.175 what's happening because this was um 01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:01.336 resolved in closed session. I'm unable 01:36:01.360 --> 01:36:04.296 to speak on the detail of it but it it 01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:07.016 is very disappointing. we need to 01:36:07.040 --> 01:36:09.896 know whether this is moving forward and 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:12.920 if not what other alternatives might be 01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:14.296 offered. 01:36:14.320 --> 01:36:15.576 You councelor Willis. Is there any 01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.496 further discussion? If not I'll put the 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.296 motion all in favor. That's unanimous 01:36:20.320 --> 01:36:23.096 and carried. 13.2 to the supplementary 01:36:23.120 --> 01:36:25.016 report council's questions on agenda 01:36:25.040 --> 01:36:27.896 items for 8th April 2026 meeting I'm 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:29.016 happy to move from the chair second 01:36:29.040 --> 01:36:30.135 council Broadbent is there any 01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.215 discussion if not I'll put the motion 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.376 all in favor that's unanimous and 01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:37.096 carried and we're now on to intention to 01:36:37.120 --> 01:36:38.376 deal with matters in close session so 01:36:38.400 --> 01:36:39.736 I'm happy to move that we move into 01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:41.256 close session second to councelor 01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:43.256 Broadbent and I'll put that motion all 01:36:43.280 --> 01:36:45.336 in favor unanimous and carried and we'll 01:36:45.360 --> 01:36:48.360 move into close session 01:36:50.639 --> 01:36:52.296 okay so we're back live and I will read 01:36:52.320 --> 01:36:53.976 through the resolutions from the closed 01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.376 session. So item 15.1 which was the GM 01:36:56.400 --> 01:36:58.135 performance review six-month check-in, 01:36:58.159 --> 01:36:59.816 it resolved that the report be received 01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:01.336 for information. So we've reached the 01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:02.856 end of the business paper. The time is 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:05.175 7:45. I declare the meeting closed. 01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:08.199 Thank you councilors. Thank you staff.